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Are science and religion compatible?

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Personally, I find the idea of simultaneous support for both religion and science wholly incompatible. Here's my thought process: - Scientists support the [url=http://www.sciencebuddies.org/science-fair-projects/overview_scientific_method2.gif]scientific method[/url]. - Faith-based religion conflicts with the scientific method, as religion skips/ignores steps in the scientific method. - One cannot support the scientific method while simultaneously supporting faith-based religion. One cannot truly support both science and religion; you're compromising your support in one or the other. Thoughts? Explain your position.

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  • Edited by Shpip: 11/8/2014 2:17:44 AM
    Depends on the religion, I guess. Most conflict with one another.

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  • I'm just going to link Christianity and Science. For example: God creates universe; he uses the Big-bang. He creates man; Because he created us in his image, he must've adjusted it to his liking. He does this through evolution.

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    • I answered yes. I only answer yes because there can and is, to some degree, science within spirituality. However, in big box religion, like the story of the birth of Christ being born to a virgin and everything else? No, there is no science to that. Science disproves immaculate conception, along with many other things that factually presented in the bible.

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    • Edited by darkcrusader117: 8/27/2013 8:31:57 AM
      they're compatible and incompatible at the same time because they each answer different things science answers how things happen (eg: event X causes effect Y) whereas religion answers why things happen (eg: the reason behind event X is purpose Y) the problem is when people to use religion to answer how and science to answer why. with one you'll never understand cause and effect and with another you're only preaching philosophy (kinda like giving your reason for baking a cake when asked for the recipe or giving the recipe when asked why you baked the cake). as long as you understand and respect the boundaries of each there really isn't a problem. incidentally this is the problem i have with anti-theists [i]and[/i] religious nuts. they just don't get that they're for answers to two different yet similar questions about the world and existence.

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      • Use science to explain the known. Use religion to explain the unknown.

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        • it would be foolish to say science is fake... and just plain stupid to say God does not exists. we are both flesh (science) and spirit (spiritual)

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          • Honestly, I feel like many people treat Science like a religion... It's like "Science is on my side!" sort of thing... When Science is just human study of things through tests... Just human research, nothing more, nothing less.

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            • They are compatible, it is the people who aren't.

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              • I am more inclined to agree, however, there are some who believe that the big bang and everything that follows really did happen, but God caused it to happen and the events such as the ice age and evolution did happen, but in conjuction with what The Bible says to be true. For example: They believe that the highly oxygenated air caused people to be bigger i.e. giants as depicted in The Bible, etc. So there isn't a COMPLETE disconnect between the two, but when one completely denies the other, you are absolutely correct

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                • Nope

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                • Some religious views do not necessarily contradict the views of science.

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                  • Science to prove what we believe to be true. Some things cannot be proven. I cannot prove i had a wet dream with elle mcpherson, but when i ejaculate during my sleep, i wake up with a warm wet stain in my pants. I cannot prove who i had sex with in my dreams. If i could, the afterlife would be opened doors to this life. Immortality will be recognised and accepted, the way of life would change, for better or for worse.

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                    • Religion? No. Christianity? Yes. Evolution contradicts Christianity's (and, by extension, Islam and Judaism) notions of creation.

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                    • You would be a fool to completely take the side of just one.

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                      • Ha

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                      • "Science and Religion are cousins in search of the truth"

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                        • Science develops facts. Religion makes up facts.

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                            As a religious person myself, I do not argue proven scientific facts, such as gravity and others. But as for origins, neither science or religion have really proven anything or have any hard evidence to back them up, so I can not rule out either.

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                            • That's the great thing about science, whether you believe it or not, it's still true

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                              • See: Contact.

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                              • Yes. See the Ancient Greeks, early Muslims, and the scientific revolution.

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                                • BINK

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                                  • Watch bill nye v ken hamm. I think you can, but i surmised that you meant in a "scientific" research method. I do believe that a religious person can perform science as anything that is done HAS to be able to be done by other scientists. However do i think that religion should has a basis in today's "scientific community"? No. Religion has hindered man's progression for many many years. Those who could prove the earth wasnt the center of the universe were put in prison or killed. I believe that religious thought should be private and personal. We shouldn't push others to believe what we do, unless it is able to be proven by others. Best way to put it is russels teapot.

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                                    • One could wish

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                                    • Maybe one day.

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                                    • Edited by Gross1985: 11/6/2014 9:02:17 PM
                                      Didn't Einstein once say that science & religion stem from the same tree? The earth is billions of years old, although we learned recently that it's much older than we thought. The whole "thousand years old" thing probably just has to do with Adam coming into the world. Even then there were civilizations long prior, such as Sumer. Some argue that such ancient civilizations might have been populated with extraterrestrial lifeforms, or even "ancient astronauts". There's even an example of a possible ancient astronaut documented in the Tanakh (often known as the Old Testament to us Christians), specifically in the story about Ezekiel, one "Ezekiel's Wheel", which some claim was an extraterrestrial ship that came from a vision he had.....though there's a claim that his visions may have been drug-induced. The problem is that the Tanakh has a ton of grey spots. Plus, people didn't know measurements, such as time measurement, like we do now. We don't know how long those seven days lasted, the seven days in which the world was created. Those seven days couldn't have lasted 24 hours each. Then long after Creation, before the story of Noah's Ark, there's stories about a race of giants that roamed the earth (the surface of Earth, that is), a story about the "Sons of God", "Daughters of Men", and subsequently the Nephilim (the offspring of the Sons of God & Daughters of Men). There is no precise measurement of time during or inbetween these events, or the other events further described in the Tanakh. My mom has also told me that scientists more and more are agreeing that there might just be some higher power, possibly God, who is responsible for a lot of things that can't be yet explained by science. Though, still, science is a very nice field of study, and I'd be stupid to deny what good science can offer to us (biotech, nanotech, [url=http://www.militarytimes.com/article/20140715/NEWS04/307150068/Marine-paralyzed-by-sniper-s-bullet-walks-use-exoskeleton]things like this[/url], etc). But I believe that there are things in life that can't be properly explained, because in life, anything is possible. Just because something is unrealistic doesn't mean it's impossible. Though that's not to say that the unexplainable is always the work of God. In fact, I don't think people in this day and age could have the capacity to speak of what God wants in us....except maybe the Pope, but the reality is that a Pope is elected by people in the Vatican. I guess I don't understand how people find it necessary to be one-or-the-other when it comes to science & religion. Both can work hand in hand.....but, then again, that's just my outlook. Maybe it all depends on a person's preference. I, on the other hand, am probably just nonchalant, refusing to be fanatical about either side. [b][u]TL;DR[/u][/b] I voted Yes.

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