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Parents Sue State After 'Mutilation' Turns Intersex Child Female

[quote]M.C. feels like a boy. The 8-year-old adopted child of Mark and Pam Crawford identifies as a boy, acts like a boy and is accepted as a boy by his family, school and pediatrician. But M.C. is not biologically male -- at least, not anymore -- because nearly seven years ago, M.C., who was born intersex (with both male and female genitals), underwent a procedure in South Carolina that surgically removed his male genitalia, CNN reports. Now the Crawfords are suing the people who performed and gave consent for that surgery, alleging that "the state of South Carolina violated M.C.’s constitutional rights when doctors surgically removed his phallus while he was in foster care, potentially sterilizing him and greatly reducing, if not eliminating, his sexual function," according to the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC). It is the first lawsuit of its kind filed on behalf an intersex child who was given sex assignment surgery while too young to give informed consent. From the moment the Crawfords saw M.C.'s baby picture, they were "charmed," Mark Crawford says in a YouTube video released by the SPLC, but they were saddened to find out the state had already performed surgery. "I was really sad that that decision had been made for him," Pam Crawford says in the video. "And it's become more and more and difficult just as his identity has become more clearly male. The idea that mutilation was done to him has become more and more real. There was no medical reason that this decision had to be made at that time." M.C. just "wants to be a normal little boy," Pam Crawford says, but because of a decision he could not influence, he will forever be a little bit different. "I think the decisions made by the state send a message to M.C. that your body is not acceptable the way it is," she says in the video, "that you need to have a body that conforms more toward what we think it should look like... I would given anything for this not to have been done to our child. I don't want it to happen to anymore kids." According to ABC News, about 1 in 2,000 children born each year are classified as intersex, one of dozens of disorders of sexual development (DSD). And M.C. is not the first child to have irreversible surgery as a baby, only to later realize doctors chose the "wrong" gender. Advocates for Informed Choice (AIC) is working with the SPLC on behalf of the Crawfords. The AIC is an organization that specializes in advocating for the rights of intersex children, according to its director and founder, Anne Tamar-Mattis. Tamar-Mattis told The Huffington Post in a phone interview that these surgeries have been going on for years, but that parents were not necessarily willing to talk publicly about it, let alone explore possible legal options. The issue is personal for Tamar-Mattis, whose partner and friends are intersex. "People I care about [have] been deeply, deeply hurt by these surgeries, and I want to make sure it doesn't happen to other children," she told HuffPost. She said the problem is often that doctors aren't following "accepted standards for authorized consent." When a child is 16 months old -- the age M.C. was when he was operated on -- "doctors shouldn't be making that decision at all," she said. They need to "wait until the mature child can make the decision, with full information and the participation of the parents." However, doctors who perform these procedures have argued that it can be beneficial to assign a clear gender sooner, rather than later. "There haven’t been any studies that would support doing nothing,” Larry Baskin, chief of pediatric urology at the University of California, San Francisco, told The New York Times in 2006. “That would be an experiment: don’t do anything and see what happens when the kid’s a teenager. That could be good, and that could also be worse than trying some intervention.” A representative for defendant the South Carolina Department of Social Services wasn't immediately available for comment. However, the Medical University of South Carolina released this statement to local station WISTV: MUSC's general counsel and leadership will review the lawsuit through standard operating procedures for legal matters. MUSC will not be able to offer further comment on this pending litigation. But Tamar-Mattis said the "harm" in this case is clear, and she has no idea how the state is going to try to defend itself. "[The defendants made a] permanent, irreparable decision that compromised the civil rights of the child," Tamar-Mattis said. "They took it upon themselves to play god, and try to force this child into the body they thought he should have."[/quote] Thoughts on this? Unfortunately as the article says, these sort of things aren't uncommon. I remember there was a story a few years ago where a boy was "turned him into a female" after a failed circumcision and was raised a female. However, as he was older he identified as male, and struggled with it for most of his life and eventually ended up killing himself. That story is slightly different but they are related in the sense that the doctor(s) are essentially altering the child's sex against their will which can have profound effects later in life.

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  • Wow, if he wanted to, he could have literally -blam!-ed his self.

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    • Edited by Wyldfyre: 5/17/2013 5:03:18 PM
      [quote]However, doctors who perform these procedures have argued that it can be beneficial to assign a clear gender sooner, rather than later.[/quote] AHAHAHAHA. I hope they win. Fu­cking "medical professionals" often don't know shit about this area, that's why people like him, when older, are almost always referred to several specialists. Oh and OP, David Reimer didn't kill himself because of the sex/gender confusion, it was because of financial, marriage and family issues.

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      • Why the -blam!- are they suing the state? Oh right, because the state has money and the foster parents don't.

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        • The problem with "Letting the kid mature and identify the way he wants" is that usually they need to perform the surgery early to avoid complications. The fact is, he's a masculine person with a vagina, which kind of -blam!-ing sucks. But isn't really as bad as it seems as long as he actually embraces this. " you need to have a body that conforms more toward what we think it should look like... " is the single most counterproductive statement I've ever heard, that's dragging 'him' into a hole that he should be moving past, not reminded of.

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        • [quote]M.C.[/quote]

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          • .....So they are suing for money for an incident that happened seven years ago, prior to them adopting the child? Sounds like a great way to get free money that you have no right to

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            • >Suing the state >Seven years after they adopted her when they gave her the operation Slowpoke parents are slow.

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              • I'd like to know what benefits they think guessing a child's gender would bestow.

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              • Edited by Ninjabird00: 5/18/2013 7:31:12 AM
                Why even mess with his body? Just let it be.

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              • have to wonder what the statue of limitations on this kind of thing would be.

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              • I do think if they want to handle intersex subjects then they would also have to provide proper hormones according to the preference. Lately it has been clear that there aren't only two genders and the subject isn't as black and white it looks like. I do honestly think that if someone is born intersex and parents do believe that's too complicated that at least a proper surgery and hormones are provided to avoid bigger problems in the future. Because merely removing the sexual functionality isn't the only problem to handle. (The amount of hormones is what also matters) American hospitals and perhaps even doctors are better than those in my country, but these things are frankly, disgusting.

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              • At least he's a treat for gay guys. I know, I'm going to hell.

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              • The foster parents are right. I think that they'll easily win this case.

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              • its very unlucky, they should have waited to see which gender traits were more dominant before agreeing to any surgery. A rule should be made in hospitals that they need to wait a certiain period of time before performing these kinds of surgeries

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              • Why would we make the decision for the child? Parents should not have the right to have a child's body parts removed unless it is necessary for the child's physical well-being.

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                • What is a man without his manhood? Damn, that is tragic.

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                  • Edited by Coup de Grace: 5/16/2013 11:12:58 PM
                    It's unfortunate that this is his outcome, but the parents are just kinda like [quote]THE STATE OWES US MONEY, WE DESERVE MONEY[/quote]so eh Wait, the hell is the Tamar-Mattis chick?

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                  • I would be mad if someone cut my dick off.

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                  • Did the parents even consent to that, or did the doctors just go ahead and do it without permission?

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                    • Holy Shit. That's messed up. Everyone who was involved in that decision should be jailed for Mayhem (look up the legal definition.)

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                    • This is really messed up, my heart goes out to the poor child.

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                      • Edited by Winter Soldier: 5/16/2013 1:54:39 PM
                        [quote]I remember there was a story a few years ago where a boy was "turned him into a female" after a failed circumcision and was raised a female. However, as he was older he identified as male, and struggled with it for most of his life and eventually ended up killing himself.[/quote] I did this in Psychology, the guys twin brother also killed himself because it basically turned his world upside down and messed up his head. And the circumcision the kid was given was a new one where they would electric shock the foreskin, but the procedure went bad and pretty much mutilated his penis. The parents weren't even asked if they wanted to have the new procedure, the doctor's just went ahead and did it.

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                        • LOL that is bad What's wrong with staying intersex? I like it.

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