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originally posted in:Liberty Hub
1/6/2017 5:46:33 AM
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Why are so many people worked up?

Look, I'm no fan of Trump. I'm no fan of any elected official, actually. In fact, I'm no fan of any government official. I'm really not even a fan of government to begin with, if we want to put it lightly. However, I just want to remind people of one thing. Number of people that Trump has thrown into concentration camps - 0 Number of people that President Franklin Delano Roosevelt threw into concentrations camps - 110,000 - 120,000 Statism is statism. I don't care whether you believe Trump is a political messiah here to rescue you from rabid college students, or whether you believe he's an outspoken, malevolent white supremacist itching to deport every immigrant down to the 3rd generation. It only ever matters if he has power, and now he does. This particular brand of power isn't exactly a safe one. Democide alone accounted for over [i]a quarter of a billion deaths[/i] in the 20th century, which means that governments are [i]six times more dangerous[/i] than the battles they fight between one another. On that depressing note, I wanted to ask a question. What abstract moral reasoning can you draw upon to say that slavery, concentration camps, and state-sanctioned genocide are all morally impermissible? At least give slavery a whack, since I've encountered an alarming number of people who can't provide a reason for slavery being immoral that doesn't contradict other ideas they hold.

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