agree and disagree, two different raids and many never did much VOG as it was harder
however, I will say the relic duty on VOG is way easier than on CE
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CE hm relic is difficult, much easier on norm. Lets be honest though, with a bit of practice VoG relic is very easy
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it is, but in the end it takes experience and especially as a 31 or 32 most groups in VOG already have someone who knows how to run the relics well so they don't ask a newbie. I learned to run both relics well after they finally got rid of the templar cheese. up until then I was still pretty unsure but willing to try, usually each group had a good relic holder so i had no reason to learn Now i find more that many relic holders rely more on their level than skill and don't know the tricks to ensure good damage with little risk like we had to learn while 29s and 30s.