I'd say about 2 months if you play regularly to go from Noob to Vet.
But, Xmas Noobs, will have never experience what day 1 players (also Alpha/beta) have experienced:
-Cryptarch giving Common Items from Legendary Engrams.... Yes GREENS!
-Xur selling Gjallahorn in Week 2, when nobody knew how good it was
-Iron Banner 1.0, that was pretty much standard Control, where Power did not matter one bit, Khostov was just as effective as Hawkmoon
-How Bad Juju and Thorn were amongst the worst exotics in the game
-How ridiculously OP Vex MC was, I believe it was a 2 hit kills with an insane extended magazine pre-patch (50+?)
-Queen's Wrath (which will return), but getting them Legendary Helms, Chest Piece, and discarding them for ascendant material
-The infamous Treasure Cave (gone but never forgotten)
-Throwing Atheon and Templar off cliffs using Solar Grenades
-Using the Sniper perches for Templar
-Getting the Templar no teleport chest in VOG (still possible - but needs excellent team co-ordination)
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It's not about the cheese it's about the memories and experience. These Xmas noobs will never know how much prestige a 30 was before dlc and stuff. How hard it was to level up. Now it's a cakewalk. So they won't always be noobs...but they won't ever be the same as vets like us
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Everything you listed minus the crypt were easy mode things that day 1s did to cheat. Doesn't that make xmas noob better?
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Edited by YahyaTV: 2/6/2015 1:03:18 PMNot all of these are cheese (Bad Juju/Thorn, Vex, Gjallahorn, Queens Wrath), and I said these are things Xmas Noobs will never get to experience. It doesn't make either better or worse, most people cheesed certain things like Templar because it was more time efficient. Time and Experience is what makes a newcomer better, someone having the game for 4 months should understand the game more than someone who has only had the game for 1 month, after a certain period, the amount of new things you learn are at a very slow rate, I'd say after ~2 months a newcomer should have sufficient knowledge to be efficient in the wild.