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Edited by Unforgiven:
2/4/2015 11:18:27 PM
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Its hard to understand why you are defending this game. And its quite funny that in fact, people enjoy being misled and lied to, and instead of being angry about it, they go and defend the enemy. It is kind of like Nazzi Germany, where they wanted to kill Jews. The world simply turned their head, and chose to ignore it. Like you simply choose to ignore the obvious way you got swindled on this game.
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Don't compare this to the Holocaust. This is not at all the same. Millions of innocent people being murdered versus a big company making a few (a lot) extra dollars. That happens everywhere, and even though it's not right, it happens. Start a company and do better then
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The level of denial in this post equals the kind of levels of denial during the Halacaust. I mean I am being attacked, called stupid, dumb. I mean I am not even writing if it is or isn't true. I am only speculating here. This is all rumor and is to be taken with grain of salt. Don't get your panties in a bunch.
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Oh my god, you went Full Godwin. Never go Full Godwin.
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Godwin is a punk...
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You should be ashamed by what you just said. You don't like the game, don't play it. A game that doesn't have everything you feel it should isn't the same as genocide.
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Edited by Unforgiven: 2/4/2015 11:58:37 PMNo its not the same. Obviously. I just don't get flat out denial of stuff which is already out there and available. You can choose to ignore it, or you can maybe try to discover it for yourself.
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Discover what? You find a full completed raid in game, then I'll believe that they held out. All you have is terrain which is there to streamline development in the future. If they waited until everyone was ready at the same time then you'd have ONLY the terrain/landscape teams working. You can't add enemies or balance content that has nowhere to go. Do you think waves of enemies in a strike are an arbitrary number? No, everything down to the number and type of enemies is calculated for difficulty. If you don't know what a huge room looks like or what hallways and doors it has you can't even begin to do that. This super secret locked away conspiracy content is normal and there so we get content FASTER, not to keep it from us!
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The enemy? Are you joking? This isn't war. We aren't coming to blows over this. It. Is. A. Game. It's time for you to take the idealistic blinders off, take a nice long sip of wake the frak up, and get with the program. Up until now I was being polite. You seemed to be a misguided individual operating with false information. Instead you're proving to be willfully blind of facts and overwhelming consensus. Are you sure you're not a Senate Republican? Do you also have strong feelings on climate change and the estate tax?
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It is the war for your gaming dollar. If this is how game developers are going to operate in the future. I don't want to pre-order anymore games.
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Please don't. I don't ever want to be in a game session with someone like you. Comparing a game to genocide. Idiot. Muted
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oh man, that was great. Bravo to you, sir. Bravisimo! The war for our dollar. Ha. Welcome to the real world, kid. It's called business.
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Edited by Mindshard: 2/5/2015 12:05:07 AMEDIT: meant to link to Pd33, not you. I agree with what you're saying. The war for your dollar? How about make your own choices. Don't like something? Then don't buy it. If you go to see a movie and don't like it do you demand your money back? If you buy groceries and don't like how they taste do you return it? They have a free demo on now, they had open beta. You had your chance to form a decision. Read a review now and then. They're rarely accurate but if you find it so hard to form your own opinions they may help.
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Edited by Rustled jimmies : 2/5/2015 2:12:48 AMWell thing is if people continue to accept the way the video game industry is today then it's only going to get worse i foresee a collapse in the near future as consumers we have the right to demand specific standards in the video games we purchase if not we might as well be buying dog shit on a stick
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The forum posted your reply as if it were to me. Just checking because we seem to be on the same side here. Are you yelling at OP or me?
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Edited by Mindshard: 2/5/2015 12:04:10 AMThe OP haha. I went to delete the post and resubmit it linking to him but it seems I don't know how. No, what you're saying is what I agree with!
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Edited by GeekStanton: 2/5/2015 12:07:15 AMThought as much. :) Hard to agree with anyone that goes Full Godwin to the point that they misspelled the word intentionally to bypass the filters.
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Edited by Unforgiven: 2/4/2015 11:39:43 PMI am not a kid. First of all. I am an adult. I am married. I have a son. I am intelligent, and have a career in software and web development. So you can call me kid if you want, but it shows that you simply have no communication skills. Secondly. I am informing you that you shouldn't presume to know about others on the internet, or you will look like a fool. Thirdly, if you like go right ahead thinking that Bungie has your best interests in mind, and continue to spend money for content which should have been there at release. Go ahead and continue to keep doing the same bounties over and over, maybe after a year you will see my point of view.
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[quote]I am not a kid. First of all. I am an adult. I am married. I have a son. I am intelligent, and have a career in software and web development.[/quote] And funnily enough, none of your arguments draw from your supposed development expertise. Even though software dev and game dev are vastly different.
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Edited by Unforgiven: 2/5/2015 1:47:00 AMWhat is a game if not software. Yes your Playstation is a computer, and the game is software for that computer. Just fyi. The fact that I have friends in development, and I read about game development for years, and I even dabbled in it a bit. I used to make multiplayer maps for Half Life/ Counterstrike. Also modern game development is not as complex as you think. When you have 100 employees, with each employee assigned their own tasks, it makes development a lot easier. Each person specializes in certain things. And there are small teams that deal with certain aspects for the game. And each of them has a project manager that assigns the tasks, or goes over it with them, who communicates to the other teams. Then there are the bigger departments which those teams fall under. Am I getting the basic gist of it? Then there are those departments which specialize in testing the game called Q&A. It is all basics of software development. So yea I know a little bit about it. The Q&A team in Destiny didn't really spend enough time hiding this leaked DLC which people have gotten into. I bet those guys got fired already tho, just joking wouldn't want anyone to lose their job over a forum post.
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I'd strongly argue against the intelligent part where you (wrongly) claim content held back is the same as genocide.
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I use "kid" is a pejorative term. Pejorative. Means condescending. That you're an adult, or married, or gainfully employed has little to do with why I use the term. I use it because you hold to high-minded, self-righteous views that are based on false/misleading information. Common traits for someone who has little to no experience in debate or critical thinking. Oh, and lest we forget. Who called who "fanboi" as an attempt to silence an opposing viewpoint? Please, I beg of you. Do better.
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Edited by Unforgiven: 2/4/2015 11:52:45 PMI have every right as a consumer to inform other buyers of what they got. Yes you seem to be a fanboi, as you are arguing against info that is only the tip of the iceberg. Do you think if players were able to discover this much, there isn't even more content buried on the disk, that people don't even know about. Think about it. What they were able to sneak into was entirely difficult, and there maybe even more stuff there to be discovered.
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I'm not defending anything. There's nothing to defend. You simply have no understanding of game development or business in general. That's the problem here - you defending your own ignorance.
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Edited by Unforgiven: 2/4/2015 11:22:58 PMYea I have an understanding of business as I work as a web developer for an ecommerce company. And I have been a gamer and have read magazines about gaming and game development since 1993. Spoken with countless game developers. And have many friends who are in game development. So I may have maybe even more knowledge of it than you.
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Sure you do, kid.
