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1/21/2015 12:22:53 AM
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Like most companies, greed has trumped over building a community and something that keeps people invested in them. WoW wouldn't still be a huge game without the great community to keep it alive and kicking. I expected crap from Activision, but the fact that Bungie has been so spineless just shows that the more we throw money at them, the less they care. And half the problem is that this community is so toxic. When critique is being attacked as crying, b*tching, whining, etc. is horrible when we are trying to voice actual issues with the game. Maybe if instead of "stop crying and get over it" people start posting "that sucks, feel the pain" and actually propose legitimate fixes, then we will be heard as a community. There are too many "keyboard warriors" out there who hide behind the internet because they can be "cyber jerks" without anyone reprimanding them for it.
Solution: Become a unified community, and not a bunch haters. Flood Bungievision and DeeJ with a bunch of threads about these issues that need fixing so they MUST be seen. And if they aren't, it will be proof that there is no place in Bungievision for player feedback and concerns.
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Stop whining! Cry baby.
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How am I a cry baby? And how am I whining? You are exactly what I am talking about. In the 15 seconds it took you to write those words, do you feel good about yourself? Having to put people down because of your insecurities? I am not the cry baby here. Anyone can hide behind the internet and act big. Take off the ladies skirt and put on your big boy pants and get over it. If you don't like what I have to say, don't READ IT, or IGNORE IT. Revolutionary concepts, I know.
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Edited by RedFaceGeneral : 2/8/2015 6:56:48 PMToxic community appeared for two reasons. Mainstream popularity(CoD, LoL, Dota etc) and/or false marketing/overhype a product. I believe this community wouldn't be this toxic if Bungie didn't oversell this game. Back in July 2014 after the Alpha(?), the forum were brimming with ideas and theories about destiny. It was truly a feedback forum. People talked about the Fallen and Hive, they talked about weapons and specifically Shingen C and people were writing fan fiction. Everyone was really looking forward to this game and get ready to soak into a new richly detailed fantasy world from the creators of Halo. All that dashed away after we killed some heart thing in the black garden and the speaker giving a really uninspired speech. Everything is a disjointed mess. The back of the box promised epic story and it was nowhere to be found, that's clearly false marketing.
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The lack of story can be attributed to Activision essentially firing Joe Staten. If you believe 404Architect, Joe had created the game that we were going to be sold, but Activision wanted to intentionally water it down to market it to a larger audience. Isn't it kinda weird that Destiny is rated T but other large triple A titles are usually rated M? But the reason why Activision had to over-hype the game was because it was a turd. If everyone knows it's a turd, nobody will buy it. But yes, I do attribute the toxicity to the points you have mentioned. But it's like I said, they can be bullies and make themselves feel good without anyone able to reprimand them for it. A forum should be a place of discussion/information... not "git gud scrub." But thank you all for the great responses and a great discussion! You guys are the part of the community I am proud to be a part of.
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Take off your tin foil hat. Bungie had a contract stating a deadline for the game's release. They chose to cut a bunch of shit to make that date. Their fault they couldn't get their shit together in time. The guy in charge of the story probably quit or was fired over strong disagreements when they decided to butcher the story. Activision isn't at fault here.
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I have come to believe that, while 404architect was close to the truth, he wasn't who he claimed to be. The known events much more closely match problems within the management of Bungie than an overreach by Activision.
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Until we get an official story on what happened during that last year of development, we honestly won't know. There was obvious overreach somewhere that caused contention with Joe and Marty that was so bad it caused them to leave. But as fun as theories are, I want to see the truth come forth.
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We will never hear an objective version of the complete story. There is evidence of a power struggle within Bungie, though, and the faction that wanted the Destiny that we were promised lost.
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Yep, and at the end of the day, what we got is the only thing that matters. So we have to figure out how to make the best out of the turd we were given.
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It is a very highly polished turd, lol.
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OMG! My feeling exactly! Really what these forums need is moderating! Whether by Bungie or choose responsible community members through whatever process. I had made a thread once and a guy commented something like "Quit being a bitch and get over it." I wasn't whining at all. I had made constructive posts that wasn't even really critiquing. I made a general response of really dude? Then went on to wish him well and so forth. He responded with "You mad bitch?" By then someone else jumped in and ripped him. My point is we need moderators to raise the value of these forums
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Totally agree. 90% of posts are the same and utterly pointless and the truly good posts get lost in all the bs. I wish they had mods on this forum. It is the worst forum iv ever been part of. I love when I actually find a decent posts with good responses. Seems to happen once or twice a day now and get burried by garbage in minutes.
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Yea, that's actually a great idea.... Why aren't there mods to begin with? If there was a small team of mods, we would most likely see all the negativity vanish either because people don't post or get banned. Forums should be a place of discussion and feedback, not keyboard warriors action big because they can.
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Totally agree. I can't imagine seeing a page of useful informative topics like other games and trolls and keyboard warriors banned
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Excellent response. Well said.
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Thank you sir. U da real mvp.
