I can appreciate the in depth feedback but I have to disagree on Red Death and most definitely Hard Light. For Red Death, it now also shoots faster than before, so while it's not such a beast in crucible, it's still a great weapon. Glorious in PVE. For Hard Light, I'm not too sure you actually use the weapon very much to be calling it "Shingen-style". First off, it's "kick" is really just an issue of a bouncing sight and the gun taking up too much of your screen (compare an idle Hard Light position to an idle Monte Carlo). The gun shoots in a relatively straight line. In addition, because it has an exotic-locked sight, it's first upgrades can influence other stats such as impact which, in the case of Hard Light, has an upgrade that leaves it with around 50% more damage than a gun of it's fire rate should have. DEFINITELY not something For the People can mimic.