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1/15/2015 7:18:18 PM
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No. Grow up. 1. Deej has said multiple times that they are prioritizing "needs" over "wants". Extra vault space is a WANT. 2. VoG exotics have been upgraded to level 32. That is NOT going to happen with the VoG raid weapon and armor sets. If you want level 32 raid gear, you know where to find it. 3. Bungie is giving thsi game a level of time, atttention and service that most developers charge a monthly subscription fee for. 4. Bungie (unlike most developers) didn't lock all progression in the game behind the DLC /expansion paywall. Yet there just is no pleasing some spoiled and entitled people.
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  • Shh

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  • #3 is definitely not true. Sorry.

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  • Edited by DUURJOB: 1/25/2015 3:08:50 PM
    [quote]bungie is giving this game more attention than most developers do that charge a sub fee[/quote] We already paid a sub fee (the expansion pass) plus most of us pay to play in general (PSN/xbox live) [quote]bungie didn't lock all progression behind a paywall[/quote] THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID!!! What the actual hell is wrong with you? Do you ENJOY being ripped off?? My fanboy detector is spiking. [quote]there is no pleasing spoiled/entitled people[/quote] So, let me get this straight. Because bungievision is ripping us off by INTENTIONALLY cutting out parts of the game just to sell it back to us so that they can milk is for every cent we have, that happens to be the same exact content that we were playing earlier and us calling them out on it makes us entitled pricks? I fail to see the logic in that statement. Oh wait, I guess that's because there is none...

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  • But they NEED to fix vog instead of fixing crota cheese

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  • Edited by insecurerat: 1/25/2015 4:03:19 PM
    If they would fix any raid bugs, Atheon or Crota, I'd be happy. So far they fix "cheese" and screw everything else up. Twice so far, lets see about the HoW cheese fixes. Sorry, sore spot with me.

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  • There proritizing their mistakes over what needs to be addressed now

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  • They also made more money than most games that charge a sub, and we already have to pay a sub to play it (xbl/psn)

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  • You forgot to add *troll face*

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  • I so agree I mean come on if Bungie wants a successful game they have to listen to the people who play it and respond to their requests I mean they don't have to but it would be nice you know?

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  • So all that relative difficulty we went through in the vault of glass, is for obsolete raid gear? Hard vault of glass @ level 30 was as hard as Crota with raised levels.

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  • Kellygreen2 works for Bungie. Post oozes of hypocritical, unwarranted condescension. Remember "The raid is never supposed to be easy!" or other condescending platitudes of the sort? Uggghhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Just STFU bungie/Kellygreen2.

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  • Wrong, obnoxious and stupid.

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  • I know you are but what am I?

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  • "3. Bungie is giving thsi game a level of time, atttention and service that most developers charge a monthly subscription fee for." Agree, but if they had released a full game to begin with instead of a half a game with amazing potential yet with about as much content as the NES Super Mario Brothers, then we wouldn't have any issues. "4. Bungie (unlike most developers) didn't lock all progression in the game behind the DLC /expansion paywall." What? Are we talking about the same game here? Did you even PLAY the game? As it is, I already can't do daily heroics except once a week because it's new content that I don't have an expansion for - why can't I play the BASE GAME that I already paid money for?

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  • Edited by DarthV0ider: 1/23/2015 7:13:18 PM
    You are flat wrong this time, mean Kelly green. Let me break it down. 1. Extra vault space may have been only a want, but by adding more currencies, upgrade materials, and loot, more space is now a need. Oh and weapon and armor collecting is one of the pillars of Destiny gameplay; the vault needs to accommodate this. 2. It's a real shame that forced obsolescence is what Bungie is using to encourage players to purchase DLC. The VoG on Hard was the end game goal for so many for so long; to make it's best rewards 2nd tier in one day showed poor planning and lack of consideration for players who had done just what Bungie wanted; put in extensive play time to feel a sense of ownership of their guardians. 3. Speculation and maybe even some fan-boyishness on your part. Subscription based models are fading quickly, anyways. This staggered DLC release, quietly limiting play options unless you pay, is the way of the future. 4. Piggybacking on # 3: actually yes Bungie did lock away content that affects progression. This is my biggest problem with Destiny. There are going to be certain weeks that, despite paying full price for the game, unless you are current with DLC, you may have no nightfall, weekly heroic, daily heroic, or vanguard roc options available, AND may find Crucible options extremely limited as well (as in only one mode: standard Control).

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  • Sorry dude, but your list of needs is based off of an opinion and is really a list of wants. 1. You don't need a lot of gear to play, you don't even need the best gear. If you're out of vault space, that is your decision. Bungie didn't fill it for you. The fact that you have more stuff then you can doesn't mean you need more room, you simply don't want to get ride of all your shinny toys. I feel your pain, but this is a want, not a need, and shouldn't take priority over other things. 2. You paid full price for the game you bought. You played that game, it is Destiny and did not include The Dark Below. The dark Below has to be purchased to be played. I don't care if it was on disk our not, they advertised the Dark Below as separate purchase beiges the game even launched and they made it clear it wasn't part of the original game. 3. They also made it clear that The Dark Below was an expansion and was being sold as DLC. Anyone who has played an MMO before knows that an expansion expands the game, and you have to have that expansion to play in those expanded parts. People complain that since they didn't by the DLC they can't do the DLC weeklies and etc. I would complain if they could since they didn't buy it, and would be pissed off beyond all measure if they didn't use the NEW CONTENT as weeklies and etc just to appease the people who didn't buy it. These people are not "repeat customers" and shouldn't be treated better than rise of us who are! 4. If you progress is locked at the The Pre DLC level and you haven't bought the DLC, then this is your fault. Seen points 2 and 3. I understand some of your frustration, but not your sense of entitlement.

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  • Spelling could use some help but I like what you said. Bravo good sir.

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  • Thanks for sharing your opinion.

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  • Agreed

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  • The DLC sales more than pay for maintenance like fixing bugs or addressing community concerns. I bought dark below and house of wolves. You mean to tell me I don't deserve better?

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  • Edited by kellygreen45: 1/23/2015 5:15:25 PM
    No the DLC pays for the DLCs development cost, some maintenance costs, and the profit that Bungie and Activision have a legal duty to earn for the shareholders/investors. In the open market, $90 doesn't buy you much in terms of entertainment. Which is why video games are one of the worlds biggest bargains and best entertainment values.

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  • pays for the DLC you dumb ass we paid for that when we bought the game they already had it made and on the disc

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  • You're silly if you think that. What do you think?They're breaking even by selling this to us? Plenty of games are profitable and fix issues without subscriptions. In a way DLC is a form of subscription pay. Just up front!

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  • Edited by DavyJonesLocker: 1/25/2015 2:14:47 PM
    Dude the dlc was on the disk thats why the download wasnt even a couple of megabytes it was just activating the dlc they made players accept another terms of service just so they couldnt get sued for taking content out

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  • Edited by kellygreen45: 1/23/2015 5:43:25 PM
    No. You are naive thinking otherwise. This is how the businessworld operates. ...and no it isn't a form of subscription. Because you are paying for CONTENT----content that cost Bungie to develop and market----not ACCESS. Subscriptions for on-line games is paying for access. Because games like WoW also charge you for CONTENT (expansions) ON TOP of what they charge each month for access.

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