I like your point! You're very right about people not knowing what to do. I have a 6 man raid team that we have run with every week since nearly the VoG hard mode drop. But there were a few situations, when helping other mates through that we noticed some didn't know what to do because we were all used to it for so long. Good story. My raid mate has a brother in law. We have run him through VoG multiple times, and on Hard as well, but it wasn't until recently we discovered he still needed to learn. We started taking him through normal at level 23, and hard at level 27, but we had him jump off and die, so he could watch us, learn and not get teleported. Now he's 31, and we ran hard mode. We ended up wiping a few times because he no longer needed to die but still needed to learn. I applaud his initiative for his first teleport, he grabs the shield and then asks, what do I do? At first we were like whoa! What??!? Don't know what to do?? Then he was well y'all have me die and I've never learned the shield and I need to learn sometime. Oh shoot! Boy did I feel chagrined! But it totally proves your point my friend : ))