I see where you're coming from. My justification for cheesing the Templar in VoG was how many times we had (and still do, honestly) get our time wasted from Atheon glitches. We wiped so many times when Atheon was almost dead because of an oracle dying but not registering, or the shield suddenly dropping or not enough people getting ported. I think the concern is that people who think like you are rare. Most are just trying to get to the loot, but these same people complain about the game being too short or not being enriching or long enough, or the story being lame. Ir Yut and the soul of Crota and the demise of Crota is cool imo. I think the concern is more focused on the fact that if there are people in a group that haven't done it, they'll never learn and will be left out to dry, cheese begets cheese by nature, which is damaging to the community. And the same people who I know for a fact cheesed Atheon also came onto the forums and complained about how the raid was BS and too short and how there wasn't anything to do end-game. Well, end-game takes a lot longer when you have to have 6 competent and leveled players. You just can't teach fulfillment by a completed challenge, and I think many of the community's gamers don't know how to appreciate that. I don't think it's the act itself as much as the qualitative repercussions of cheesing.