Considering most raids center around not dying, I'd say self-rez is fine. It is certainly better to not die in the first place but no one can guarantee you that. DPS comes from rockets + snipers, not necessarily from supers; they're more for clearing mobs which a rocket or grenade can easily replace. I play with randoms quite a bit and it is reassuring to have warlocks that can self-rez. In random groups, there isn't much team strategy/cohesion anyways lol...I'd say dying lets your team down more than anything else.
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If everyone ends up dying then I don't really care. I'm playing the game for the fun of playing it so don't mind if we have to wipe a few times. It's the only way people will get better at the game.
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I don't mind wiping...in fact, random groups tend to wipe a lot haha. The completion rate of any raid is higher *in random groups* when warlocks are present (unless crota- they're useless...I don't know why people don't use voidwalker there). I think the benefit of self-rez is so crucial for Atheon especially for the less experienced teams.
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See, I'd rather wipe than have a self-res in that situation as it forces the entire team to play better and learn. "Look, we all need to learn to do our jobs here" is better than "Don't worry, I'll self-res and save you" imo.
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I apologize, I was talking more in the context of hard Atheon since that is what I run...on normal you can do whatever to pass time haha. I do agree with you that everyone should learn their roles but some people are just so slow at learning. They refuse to acknowledge that the relic is easy to use lol. I had a group where this guy keep taking the relic and dies every time on Mars (or Past Venus). After the 10th wipe, with 1 time getting really close to killing atheon, I told him to just not to take the relic anymore lol.
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Yet you are crying on the forums [spoiler]ayy lmao[/spoiler]