The fact they ask for help means that they want to do it correctly but then legit people laugh and say TT. I am just learning how to use the relic now not because I'm lazy but because my raid group met at 4am and we had assigned roles when the teleport took the furthest 3. I was assigned gunner and two of my teammates wanted to be heroes all the time. I was probably the last person in the original release of the raid to get 30 lol. Raid gear didnt drop for me. So me grabbing the relic at 28 and 29 was more liability than help am I correct? One misstep in an already glitchy raid meant wipe for my group. You know whats worse than dying and watching your teammates beat the raid without you? Try being the one reason the raid failed because RNGesus decided not to drop you raid gear lol

Thats your assumption, why do you care? Dont you have your friends to raid with? Never pushed atheon, did push templar. Did glitch at bridge many times, skip deathsinger with checkpoint, tried the warlock glitch at crota once, dont find it very useful, dc glitched crota once (but rather not, this aint exploiting a glitch, its causing one and feels like a bannable offense, so i stay away from it) Also ran it all legit. I get shit done faster, thats all it accounts to really. And looking forward to hard raid, with or without exploitable glitches