First Order Optimal strategies. [url=https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EitZRLt2G3w]Extra Credits: Balancing for Skill[/url] I cheese because I don't have much of a choice. My group wants to just get it done, and I don't particularly want to be social and make new friends online. I actually do want to play it the way it's supposed to be played, but I get told it'll get fixed, so let's just get it in while we can. It's far more rewarding to play through the way it was intended, but the group I roll with wants to have it done and get the reward rather than deal with wiping over and over. As an example, since the Templar push got fixed, I have not gotten the no teleport chest. We always just do it from the cliff after we eventually wipe the first go around. Do I think it's cheesing to shoot him from the top? No, if the designers didn't want us to be up there, they wouldn't spawn us up there or would do something about. Do I think it takes more skill to prevent the teleport? Yes, clearly it's a much less risky method to do the sniping from the top. So, because I want to get it done, and the people I'm with want the reward not the challenge.