45 minutes or continuous hours? and its not like this raid is that hard, VoG is alot harder, I've beaten crota 4 times legit while being swordbearer, the rest I've cheesed just because you might as well before they patch it. Call it wrong and lazy but everyone and their mother are cheesing this raid no matter if you don't know how to do it or even are a scrub people will still cheese as long as its an option. i'm not saying this to justify cheesing but do you have that much pride over a video game for you to feel good about spending 3-5 hours to beating it legit? if so you get no achievement/grimoire for doing legit anyway you have nothing to show for doing it legit. its to each his own anyway, do whatever you please, you are no one judge. & I bet you've cheesed as well, so.... [spoiler]you do the math[/spoiler]