Beating without the DC is faster and easier... I don't understand why people do it, I take him down on a second or third (sometimes) first try almost every time with a pick up group from the forums, often with several level 30s. Of course I don't want to see my fellow gamers banned so play your way but it really is not so bad if you all take on some strategy (like gatekeepers in the VoG where people work together). Anyway the things he drops now aren't that great, black hammer an exception, I'm focused on beating him so that when hard raid comes out I have the strategy down, and in surprised so few others are focused on honing their skills.