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Edited by TheSama: 12/21/2014 6:24:05 AM
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[quote]Sony Entertainment Network Terms of service: "You may not modify or attepmt to modify the online client, disc, save file, server or client server communication." "You may not cause disruption to the network connection, including for the purpose of gaining an unfair advantage in a game"[/quote] 1. There is no modding involved so this doesn't apply. 2. You're not causing a disruption to the network connection. You're terminating your connection to the network. The network is not affected and other players connections are not affected by you disconnecting. The game itself is affected, not the network. Edit : Typo
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  • Edited by TheSama: 12/21/2014 7:53:59 AM
    Edit: Double post

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  • Technically, the fire team is "effected" by the glitch: it changes the behavior of the a.i. Do I care? Not really... I think it's a little odd having to go to the extent of unplugging a hard-wired connection though.

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  • Gaining an unfair advantage in a game through connection is what is happening.

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  • Edited by TheSama: 12/21/2014 7:10:26 AM
    [quote]Gaining an unfair advantage in a game through connection is what is happening.[/quote] After reading it myself I see what you did. You may not cause disruption to or modify or damage any account, system, hardware, software, or network connected to or provided by SEN for any reason, including for the purpose of gaining an unfair advantage in a game. You reworded it to suit your needs. You may not cause disruption to any network connected to our provided by SEN for any reason would be a more accurate summary. This is saying you can't cause a disruption to the [b]network[/b] provided by SEN. Nowhere in there does it say "network connection". Since disconnecting isn't disrupting the network it isn't against these terms. Disconnecting is interrupting your connection to Bungie's network, not disrupting. This section is meant to cover things like DDOS attacks or using a botnet to bloat the server so less real people can play, allowing you to gain an unfair advantage by progressing faster than other people. Besides, it's not even an unfair advantage unless Bungie says it is. Sony won't ban you for using an exploit unless the games producer makes it clear that it is forbidden.

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  • Actually it does say network connection. Quoted from PSN terms of service. Section 3. Link at top.

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  • Edited by TheSama: 12/21/2014 7:55:00 AM
    [quote]Actually it does say network connection. Quoted from PSN terms of service. Section 3. Link at top.[/quote] Your words: [quote]"You may not cause disruption to the network connection, including for the purpose of gaining an unfair advantage in a game"[/quote] Sony's words: [quote] You may not cause disruption to or modify or damage any account, system, hardware, software, or network connected to or provided by SEN for any reason, including for the purpose of gaining an unfair advantage in a game. [/quote] In your words you say "disruption to network connection", implying your connection to the network. IE, your ethernet cable, wifi, ect. In Sony's words it says "disruption to any network connected to or provided by SEN" implying the actual network. IE, PSN, Destiny's servers, ect.

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  • Someone got banned for this already. You can try reading between the lines all you want.

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  • Who? I keep seeing that, but I highly doubt it was. because of cheesing. Think about it. Why would Bungie start banning for this without making an official statement that they would? Even if it is against the terms, then it's such a gray area that they should make it very clear that it is not allowed. I don't care either way. I haven't done the raid or played Destiny in a long time. Waiting to see where the game goes before I decide to give up on it. But there is no way Sony can prove you disconnected with intent to cheat unless you outright say so.

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  • No. One. Got. Banned. People are getting banned for usin modded consoles, that is all.

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