You definitely have the right to voice your opinion. What I don't understand is why would someone choose to continue to splurge hours upon hours into a game that lacks literally everything you find essential to a video game? Why do you love a failing game as much as you do? If the game lacks the content and the variety you are desperately longing for, what about it makes you keep coming back? If you can have these opinions about this game yet you still play it, you are living proof doesn't need ANY of the things you say it lacks, my friend.

I'd like to add that the Urn of Sacrifice Quest adds a decent chunk of things to do, in a fun and challenging way, with a decent, legendary reward at the end. And looking at the connection with Xur, it might be possible they will offer a quest leading up to the Urn (hopefully a "new" quest not the same one we already did), and then the Urn every week. You'd have the week to get the Urn, Xur-Time to fill it. And if they couple that with different quest steps and requirements, plus rotating legendary rewards, that would be quite nice. Not that it's sure, but there is a bit more to the DLC than met the eye on release day.

This should have been a $10 dlc. I've been saying that for months.

I've frankly given up. I'll log on a few more times to re-upgrade my icebreaker and suros that I had put a lot of time into maxing out (because I enjoyed using those weapons a lot) but once that's it I'm done. And when I say done, I mean no longer going to pay for any Bungie product moving forward. Not unless it is free or extremely cheap. I've just done hoping Deej's broken record cries of "we're listening" lead somewhere actually worthwhile. I'm done listening to people say "just wait until the DLC, things will get better". I mean hell Bungie, $20 is a lot for a DLC. $15 was expensive for 90% of DLC on the market and those pieces of content were far more substantial. I've bought every single halo DLC (and Marathon DLC) Bungie has ever made since it was always quality content but this time I just can't. No design decision in this game has been made with the players in mind, they have all been business oriented and every one of them calculated to increase the amount of money being made and it sickens me. This is the company that at one point gave away DLC for free (cold storage map on Bungie Day) and also made map packs free like a month later (this was during Halo 2). Map packs, mind you, that were about $12. Want a better story that challenges your intellect and feels like an immersive cohesive universe? Nope, the 8-14 demographic won't understand most of it so we have to dumb it down to "go here, shoot that until it dies, congrats you saved the universe and now have all the hot babes". Sure a large vocal part of your community that would be members of this forum and other websites will tear the game apart, but they're still playing it and the game's accessibility means more sales. Lack of content and low initial level cap? How about caps forcing players to spend far longer in the game to accomplish simple things than they would otherwise spend. We'll let players have just enough glimmer as to have just enough to make a few large purchases. We'll have a "reputation" system which takes thousands of points to increase a level even though any activity the person can do will only increment the reputation like 1/100 of the way there. Also there will be marks that also have a cap insuring it takes 2 weeks to actually buy a piece of armor [b]or[/b] weapon since you can't have enough for both. We will RNG every single thing making it impossible for players to set goals in certain timetables forcing them to keep pulling that slot machine lever because Casino logic never fails to pay the bills. Multiple paths to reach level cap allowing players to "complete" the game? Nah, F 'em. Limit it to a single path which requires 1 aspect of the game be played a potentially infinite amount of times because everybody loves RNG rewards that could easily be programmed to remember what you got last time reducing the likelihood of being given the same reward again the next week but then players would "complete" their playthroughs quicker which reduces the numbers of people playing the game which doesn't look good when we do our marketing pitches to journalists. Worried your playerbase will go through the DLC too quick and stop playing the game? Take the exotic weapons you kept promising people you'd make better and instead of adding unique, interesting buffs to them or simply upping their attack power, let's make players have to trade in their old now obsolete exotics for the exact same version that just features a higher attack value but also let's reset their weapon progress. This has the added benefit of further padding out gameplay by making people grind out those traded in weapons again, plus padding out the amount of time it takes people to even trade in everything they want since the system is tied to Xur who is only available for essentially 2 days. Thus locking in players who have many exotics into another RNG system which could take months to replace everything a person wants to change. These tactics are so transparently obvious I'm having a hard time wondering if Bungie actually developed the DLC or if Activision just straight up developed the DLC from their marketing department. What if players won't buy the DLC? Shove it in their face by making the DLC content a honking green "alert" like UI icon and then make the weekly content locked behind the paywall as well killing off an essential source of strange coins and upgrade material for people who didn't buy the DLC but want to move past level 29/30. Could they have created a separate "weekly" content specific to people who bought the DLC? Yeah, just like there will be DLC specific PvP playlists. But then you sell less DLC by not pissing people off by locking away content they need. Even something as minor as the new tumbler sparrow shows how every decision is business oriented. A sizeable portion of your community sad that sparrow racing isn't a thing? Create a special trick sparrow and then dangle in front of people's faces like a carrot on a stick and put it behind the paywall as well. Something that easily would have been a free gift in pass incarnations of Bungie. I can't trust anything DeeJ says since every "we're listening" ends up with a compromise of sort of involving something the community asked for while still mostly being about padding out game length (which in a game with so little content is more torture than helpful) and increasing sales potential. I'm done.

I totally agree dude, but these kids that never played a mmo before......they can't see how limited the game is. This is the biggest game they've played so they will defend it blindly. After play ffxi and ffxiv, I can't never farm by going cave to cave opening chest for low lv items lol so sad. Gonna trade destiny in for gta.

You're still playing it aren't you?

Waaaaaahhhhhhh Waaahhhhhhhhhhh!

It's been said before but I'll emphasize. [u]COD[/u] $15 for: -3 PVP maps -[i]possibly[/i] some new guns/a perk or two Vs [u]Destiny[/u] $15 for: -3 PVP maps -new PVP game types (incoming) -3 story missions + extra bounties/bounty missions -new armor and weapons -A new RAID (which is amazing! Just got to Crota last night and it was a hell of a time) Yea, compared to my past DLC purchases, I'd say I got my money's worth. I've found that most people that are claiming that the DLC is terrible don't play the Crucible AND don't raid. So they're complaining because they decide not to participate in half the new content... which is absolutely ridiculous. I agree that this game needs more story but most people don't take into account that bungie is splitting their efforts in half to [b]attempt[/b] to make both a great PVE and PVP experience. This was possibly the wrong move depending on which crowd you're aiming to please (which is incredibly apparent with all the RPG nerds who are crying for a better story line) but for someone like me who thoroughly enjoys both - they hit the mark. I'm not necessarily trying to defend Bungie here ... I'm just stating that I am happy with my purchase and I'll keep playing because I'm enjoying myself. I highly encourage you to move on if you're not enjoying the game as there is absolute NO POINT in playing a video game if you're not having fun. [spoiler]I'm one of those "RPG nerds" so there's no reason for anyone to get offended[/spoiler]

I got my moneys worth already in term of hours played.

I wouldn't call the dlc an expansion (though it fits the theme of what destiny was going for). But I think the dlc is great. I don't get why people thought this dlc was going to be massively different then what we already have. Dlc is always more of the same. We got more story. About the hive. Through item descriptions, Eris, and grimiore cards. I'm not going to get into how they could have executed the story better. My point is we did learn more and the content actually plays apart of the current world instead of feeling like an off shoot a uh...side story if you will. Yes the characters could use more depth. Yes the info on the cards should be in the game. But at least for this first game the story isn't spoon fed. We are left hints and have to look for details and come up with our own stories. That's not going to be fixed or changed in dlc. It's really simple. If you enjoy destiny as is buy the dlc. If you aren't the dlc won't change anything for you. So don't get it.

I've really come to appreciate posts like yours. You obviously enjoy the game, and admire a lot about it, but aren't afraid to call it like it is when it comes to the shameful lack of content and repetition. Keep making posts like this. Tell everyone you know about this issue. Make sure nobody ever forgets just how underhanded Activision's marketing was.