[quote]As much as I love running around in circles shooting the same guys in the face and holding X every minute, it gets old very quick.[/quote] You're not doing it right. :P Really though, the PvE guys see it just as boring to be forced to see they are monumentally worse at competitive play than other people. [quote] As far as I'm concerned: if I need vangaurd marks, I play the strike playlist. If I need crucible marks, I play the crucible. [/quote] I also do this, but I feel for those who don't want to. IMO at the end of the day, they should just get a Vault team assembled and forget about the cruddy faction gear. If you have the patience for farming, the Vault has the richest soil in the game. [quote]I understand your side better and hope you guys get something to help boost your pve experience again, but I'm just going to keep on keeping on.[/quote] Thanks for the intelligent exchange.