Yeah, a PvP mode in Destiny is just a complete joke, its kind of like if Borderlands had a PvP, imagine how horrible that would be.....well i guess it would be the same thing as crucible! LOL a complete joke! I would be fine if they had it available to people that wanted to play it, but when you start ruining the PvE side of the game, due to people crying ab out everything in the crucible, thats just Fcked up....there is no way they should be screwing us PvE players over for what the PvP guys want. This game was meant to be a PvE game, and so far every update has been for the PvP side of things....we continue to get screwed over every single update!