Oh it makes sense. What *doesn't* make sense is this allergy many people have to the Crucible. I chose not to play in it until this most recent Iron Banner becasue I didn't want to take time away from PvE to climb its rather steep learning curve. (Getting the gear that two of my characters needed to get to level 30 WAS incentive enough to make that climb...) But I really don't get this very negative, very emotional reaction some people seem to have agaisnt playing PvP. Yeah, there are some immature pr!cks out there who try to ruin the experience. Ignore them. Mute them....and go and have fun. Had a guy get so mad at me during IB----after I'd killed like 7 guys on his team in a row with Ice Breaker while the were trying to take Point B on the Venus map----that he had to teabag my corpse when he and a buddy finally managed to take me out. I was laughing so hard that I was in tears, and nearly dropped my controller. It was nice to know that"d gotten under his skin that badly. :)