Sigh, even though the math might be correct, it still doesn't say anything. The chances of A-A-A-A happening is just as big as A-B-C-D.

If this another way of complaining aboit jow the hell he has this crap again?? Om with ya patna!!

Warlocks are op just a way of bungee nerfing without nerfing

rofl you are stupid as -blam!-.

1) learn how math works you idiot Pure random is Pure RANDOM e.g. there are X outcomes each outcome has the same chance of happening no matter how many times you roll. e.g. if there are 10 items each item has 10% chance of happening each item is EQUAL You can roll a hundred times and still under basic laws of fact get lots of repeats of the same item. That is possible because each items has the same chance 10% each time you run the RNG. This is how pure RNG works Previous rolls DO NOT affect additional rolls. Doing stupid maths about how you try and say its 1/6 and works down show how badly educated you were in school, that is complete rubbish and NOT how pure rng works. Its a logical fallacy to think that way.

If there was no RNG this being the 12th week then every armor for all classes should have been here twice based on rotation, since this hasn't happened there is RNG.

Independent events. If I need to say more then you wouldn't understand anyways. You math is correct. The application of your theory is not.

Unlikely doesn't mean impossible. Look at it this way. When you play the lottery. Your numbers have the same chance of dropping as 1,2,3,4,5,6 does. Which seems impossible. But we play anyway because the way the human brain sees random expects an even spread. Apple once had to make the random shuffle on their iPods less random because people were complaining that it wasn't random. True story.

You are wrong.

Thars not how RNG works. Its based on spreads of numbers.

I run titan class as my main and then Hunter so I I can care less about those silly warlocks

So much Tears : Quest completed

No each week there is a 16.66 chance again it doesn't keep getting smaller

I'll admit that the table is weighted at this point. But I'm pretty sure it's still RNG vs. selected. At thing point killing Xûr actually has a better chance at dropping the loot you want.

Xur is not random it was proven when they had the whole ps "able to go back a year and see what xur was selling" thing. Clearly the game wasn't out a year or 2 ago and so it's not random bc the same 3-4 pieces of armor keep popping up. Go look on YouTube.

He is definitely Not RNG.

Your post follows the same logic as this. [quote]There is a raffle with one grand prize and 1,000,000 participants. Bob got the prize. The odds of Bob being the one to get the prize are 1 / 1,000,000 = 0.0001%. Thus, we can tell that the raffle was rigged in Bob's favor.[/quote] Hopefully, you can see how illogical this is. He sells three items a week, all of which have six possible options. Assuming equal weighting, the odds that one or more of these items is the same as the week before any time he comes is ~42%. (5/6 chance for each slot it'll be different, odds they are all different is (5/6)^3, odds one or more are the same is the inverse of that) Knowing you, if he sold The Armamentarium twice you'd be posting about how that's only 2.78% odds. Yes, technically the odds of rolling that [i]specific[/i] item in that [i]specific[/i] slot twice is 2.78% in [i]exactly two rolls.[/i] You'd look like a blundering idiot, however, as the real thing that matters, the odds of [i]any[/i] one of his three armor pieces being the same as last time, is 42%. Under 3%, 42%. Seeing the difference? It's the same as the fact that there was a 0.0001% chance that Bob would win the raffle, which means [i]nothing[/i] because there was a 100% chance SOMEONE would win it and whoever won it, it would be unlikely. Moving on. In three weeks, the odds of getting the same armor, any piece of armor, in a row 3 times is a little above 7%. 4 times is a little above 1%. However that's not exact (I treated the odds for "one or more" being a duplicate as "one" being a duplicate, which will give slightly lower odds than the real thing, because I'm lazy.) and only holds true if he only showed up 4 times. He's appeared a dozen times. So then we have to get into the odds of what's the likelihood of any of the three slots rolling any item four times in a row within twelve rolls if you want anything meaningful. Even that is assuming that everything is equally weighted. Also, please people, in the future, do not use this logic. You can do this with anything. You can see a license plate containing something meaningful to you and calculate the exact odds of that exact car having that exact plate, blow your mind and believe that aliens are manipulating the traffic. That, or you can realize that you pass an astounding amount of cars on the road every day and each one of them has a chance of having a plate that means SOMETHING important to you. The odds of getting a specific abnormal pattern is small but the odds of getting [i]any[/i] abnormal pattern is pretty big. The odds of getting Voidfang Vestments 4 times in a row in 4 visits is extremely tiny but the odds of getting any of the 18 armor pieces Xur sells over 3 slots 3-4 times in a row in 12 visits is not all that small. --- Note that this is not a comment on whether or not Xur is controlled by RNG. Just that the fact he sometimes sells an item 3-4 times in a row is not solid proof that Bungie is messing with us.

Too much "666" Iluminati confirmed!

Math or no math, and all this probability BS doesn't change the fact that there are still voidfang vestments in xurs inventory, my point is they should have some sort of system that will cancel out the week befores item. I'd much rather have the odds of getting the same item every other week than see it the same week three weeks in a row.I just want apotheosis veil. I've been waiting six weeks for it and last I saw the only time they sold it was in week 3 or 4. Since then it's never been sold

Truly random sequences can [i]potentially[/i] have limitless repetition.

Your maths is off, but I get what you are saying. Each time there is a 1 in 6 chance of getting an item. Next time there is a 1 in 6 chance of getting the same item again. This is the same whether you roll once or 100 times. It is 16.3% every single time. There's no cumulative effect. However consider this - there is a 5 in 6 chance you will get a different number, or item in this case, everytime the dice is cast so to speak. Thats an 83.3% chance something else will come up with every roll of the RNG - every single week. I can only think that they choose the items or certain items are more likely to be rolled and it's not a straight 1 in 6 chance for every item.

There's no way he's random. Sunbreakers, Voidfang, Armamentarium. Yet the weapons have a nice rotation.

Didn't someone from Bungie say Xur's stock isn't random? I remember seeing a post on here that had a link to an interview with someone from Bungie and he kinda hints that it's not random. Anyone know what I'm talking about or have the link?

I think that the problem is where we assume everything has an equal chance of appearing. Apply a weighting factor and the %ages get screwed. It's still random. Just not as we interpret it.

You're making a leap here, that they all have an equal probability of dropping. For all we know, it could have a higher drop chance than the others.