Could not agree more!!! Any kind of entertainment can not launch so lack luster and void of involvement with the excuse of "oh it'll be amazing 10 years from now". All they're basically saying is, "This is going to suck until we get more money from y'all". They've already had upwards of 6 years to develop Destiny and it still launched with nothing. Is 10 years, 2 games, 20 "expansions... cough cough actually just paid dlc...", and $500 more dollars per player (not including yearly subscriptions to Xbox live and PS+) really going to make this game better? [quote]"Born too late to explore the world, too early to explore the universe."[/quote] Not only does this apply to the Destiny 1 story we're getting, it applies to the entire Destiny IP. We're shit out of luck because we're not going to get the full game, or just a competent story for another 9 and a half freaking years... Whoever picks up the Destiny special edition that has all 3 games with every dlc; much like the MCC, for only $60 is going to have an amazing time playing this game!!!!!!! Until then we're left with nothing to do but wait for a reason to "defend earths last city" that we can't even see! I feel zero urgency while playing any part of this game. Halo... We need to get there now to stop the bomb, save so and so, stop the flood, prevent the covenant, stop this or that, protect them, SAVE EARTH!!! There was always something that made me go "damn I need to get there!". Now it's just "ughhhh I have to do that strike again.... why??? Where the hell is the prison of elders? Why didn't they just kill it instead of putting it in jail? How do we know anything about the nexus? We didn't even know what the vex were until we went to venus? Why does the "exclusion zone" feel so empty? How are other guardians dying never to return yet my ghost (that wasn't even my ghost at first) could bring me back from the dead with nothing but maybe some bones or hunks of metal laying around?" and so many more questions.... Yet everyone's answer is "oh just go read the grimoire cards the story is in them" 1) If I have to leave the main source of info to understand the info, then Bungie has failed conveying said info... 2) THERE IS NO STORY IN THE DAMN GRIMOIRE CARDS!!!!!! It just raises more damn questions!!! And then their final answer is "Oh Destiny has a ten year plan, you can't expect them to do everything in one game." No I don't expect them to do everything in one game, BUT THEY CAN AT LEAST MAKE A GAME THAT STANDS ON ITS OWN!!! Even freaking WOW's expansions can stand on their own as a game! It may just be rinse and repeat level up and kill the boss, but the at least add freaking context! Destiny as a single game with no dlc could never stand on it's own, and no amount of paid dlc can ever fix that.