Those folks just don't know how to play the hunter,Plain and simple. I generally get the most kills, and fewest deaths. Its all in how you play. I'll say it before And I'll say it again the hunter is not a tank, running and gunning is better left to the titans and warlocks. Auto rifles are cool and all but Give me a Scout rifle/Hand cannon and see who dies more. Blade dancer in pve is a bit underpowered and for most not viable in nightfall I find myself using my supers to go invisible and pick you up ;) Before folks get all pissed off that wasn't directed at anyone just an overzealous generalization. Guess thats the Hunter in me :D