Yeah i understand that but im literally a nats cock away from 25, and i dont go for people highter than me, ive always joined groups doing the VOG who are the same level and they have kicked me out because they wanna do it the easy way. i know what your saying and thats exactly what im doing because this post was related to the level 24 VOG raid and everytime i join i got kicked that why i was pissed haha.