The blade dancer takes longer to clear out an area, not to mention takes longer to get started in clearing an area. The two are used for two different situations, titans and warlocks are good for taking out groups when your team is in trouble, while the blade dancer is good for pre planning to take out a group of enemies, which is nice and all, but doesnt save your team. Second you cant run faster then a bullet, sorry just doesnt happen, i have had a fair number of hunters tell me that they have problems with the relic because of their lack of armour, and lack of recovery speed. You can move as fast as you want but by the end you still meed to go up to that minotaur and hit it at least three times, then good luck getting away from his melee every time. I never said hunters were bad with the relic, i simply stated that everything about a titan is technically designed for that fighting style. The arc balder is only close range when they activate their super, at which point they can have a shield to protect them, all the rest of the time the hunter has things like blink strike and throwing knives, which are longer range melees. There is a reason the titan gets a shotgun as its first special weapon and hunters get a sniper rifle. And when a hunter has full armour it no longer has that speed, you get one or the other, you can make your hunter be like a titan, where they are slow and have good defence, but then what is the point in you arguing for a hunter?
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Edited by WhyteFox31: 11/8/2014 7:32:18 AMYou are just so blatantly wrong on so many points. And it's painfully obvious that you don't fully understand the razors edge perk or the entirety of the relic holder experience. I'll break it down for you. Razors edge is an aoe ranged ground attack that can be used multiple times to completely obliterate everything in its path. Takes no more time than any other super (save maybe a second or two against a panic ground slam which has only one charge and limited range and can't be used on fanatics which are the largest groups in the entire raid). During the relic phase, you can completely avoid being melee'd by the minotard but jump attacking him repeatedly (which is much faster on a hunter due to a quick, concise jump, instead of a slow, lengthy jet pack thrust). And you can usually one shot all 3 snipers in one well executed strike. And if you miss, DONT RUN DIRECTLY AT THEM, if you run at an angle they miss their shots. This is like a bird arguing with a snake about the best way to fly. You're obviously not speaking from experience here. Edit: And saying that striker is more built for melee than Bladedancer is ignorant. Both supers are melee, both melee attacks are, of course, melee oriented. Blink strike closes distance, not creates it, your points don't support your argument.
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I use the relic every time it teleports me and have only failed with it 2 times in my last 3 raids, one was because of the glitch where the minotaur gets its health back and the second was because of the glitch where the relic doesnt end up doing damage for some reason. I have no need for your time consuming jumping and fancy moves, i jump in from the top of the stairs do you ground smash and then consecutively hit them with the right trigger attack, fast, easy, and no problems. And the hunter super takes longer to activate, everyone knows that, that is why people dont refer to it as a panic super, or does such a simple consent escape you. I have played as ever class and every subclass, so ya i do have experience and i do know what i am talking about.
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I'll just leave this here for you...
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The fact that you failed 66.6% of the time you had it and blame glitches says a lot about your lack of argument here. "Time consuming jumps and fancy manuevers" spoken like a true troglodyte. You speak of efficiency and then boast about using the slower, less efficient method of relic attack. Thank you so much for publicly denouncing yourself by opening your mouth and attempting to sound like you know what you're doing lol. You have a lvl 24 and a 26 as your alts. Logic says neither of them are very experienced in the raid. Which means you are talking about things that you have no first hand experience with, other than your blatant bias with your laughable 29 Titan.
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You obviously didn't understand a thing, after doing the entirety of the raid 3 times (this means multiple teleports by the way, incase you didn't realize that), i only failed 2 of the times i was teleported (not failed 2 RAIDS, i failed in two of the times i was TELEPORTED), do you understand now.
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For all I know, after failing so badly the first teleport, your entire raid group could have collapsed. If you want to be a stickler for details, maybe you should be detailed? Lol. Way to avoid the entire subject tho, I'd probably try that too if I had nothing of merit to respond with.