I don't really see why reach & 4 can't be "good" or even *gasp* better. Ce, had awful vehicle control, you played half the game on ice, and every enemy was virtually the same. Halo 2 was more solid, smoother, enemy variety still lacking unfortunately, decent multiplayer. Halo 3, major improvements in both multiplayer, control, look & feel, suffers same enemy reskin & tactic, great vehicle combat. Halo 3 ODST was basically an expansion pack. Halo Reach added some new things, improved on some weapons, ultimately fan fiction with nice multiplayer (bitch about AA and I'll void you're (??) argument, and write you off as a 12 year who can't strategize) Halo 4, did some things with multiplayer that might have been considered taboo but it felt really good, Some things that were introduced in reach & older titles have been improved upon or changed, still fan fiction, I could have lived with not knowing what happened to master chief, personally. While you may think ce-3 are better, I disagree reach & 4 played better, you could say for 2 had the best multiplayer but I'd still disagree, h3 had better multiplayer, and it only gets better. But I guess to each there own & when I pick MCC I'm going to have to tough out the aneurism that CE vehicle/player control gives me at least until I get to halo 2 Caimpaign.