But nightfall is just the same missions with modifiers. The game needs much more substance to it. I played alpha and beta to the max so much I dont want to lvl my other characters up to lvl 20+. They said the game opens up at lvl 20 but really it closes down. Ive had the same chest piece since lvl 20. Put it on lvled it up and went straight to lvl 22. Im now lvl 27 and coulx be lvl 29 but dont want to waste my shards on the armor ive had since day 3. I was expecting too much. Should have realized this was going to be a small game judging by their appearance at PAX. Pathetic.

It's just a grind. It' work and less play for some. I just got my Titan to 27 and I now have a full set of armor with one Exotic (helmet) from Xur) which is one way for you. You could do all the bounties you could (focus on at least Vanguard 100 points), do the weekly and strike list and daily stuff and soon you should get enough drops along with Strange Coins. I need to Rank 3 (I am 2) to get a legendary weapon.. Once there - I have the coins for Xur. That will make me at least armed for VOG enough to be a good team member. You could do the same Bal. It just takes some time and for guys like me that work full time - it is a grind for sure. I will take about 2 more weeks to rank up and then I should be able to VOG more often and with some success. I hope you do as well and soon Bal. Keep it up and you will. You are right about Nightfall by the way. But because of the new territory and strike - we should get a new Nightfall at some point.

I do hope we get a new nightfall. I also have an exotic armor(sunsinger arms) & all legendary gear, but thats not the issue. Its the same gear since I hit 20. I haven't gotten anything purple since the loot cave days. I was lucky to get all good legendary gear at lvl 20 but everything I get now is blue or green.