-blam!- me you dense mother-blam!-er [b][u]I KNOW[/u][/b] Tell a beta tester that though and they will argue the toss with you and talk about how they do this and do that. Hence the [b][u]GLORIFIED[/u][/b] If you are a QA tester and that's why you are getting so testy at being compared to a beta tester then I got news for you, a computer can do 90% of your job now so get off your high horse. It's a shit job with way to much hype.