Yesterday I played through the Vault of Glass fully for the first time. It was great to see the beautiful design of it, but the problem was the people I was with. For starters, it was a bunch of younger dudes who have a mouth on them xD This guy was so proud to tell us how his lvl 30 has done the raid 100 times and that his own vault is filled with Legendaries and Exotics. At first I was impressed, but once we got to the Templar... everything changed. This was no longer the raid I played the first time, and died multiple times trying to do it legit. No. Instead, we had this lvl 30 telling me that "Hunter's are useless in the VoG". To which I asked why (considering we had a lvl 29 Hunter with us and I myself play as a Hunter), and he merely responded because they are. Now it was only when we got to the Templar that I realised why I wasn't enjoying this. The players were more concerned with glitching the Templar and Atheon, pushing them off the edge with their EPIC WARLOCK GRENADES, while me and another player sat in a corner, feeling goddamn useless. It sucked. The whole point of a raid is to come together as a team and devise strategies to defeat the obstacles in front of you. I hardly felt like I even did anything in the raid, as these guys carried on talking about their "Amazing skills at pushing Atheon". So, I sat in Atheons lair, literally hiding behind a -blam!-ing pillar while this dude compalined that Atheon was not going in the right spot. I hadn't even shot a single shot at him, I hardly even knew what I was doing because this group were so focused on glitching him out. I'm now on the Hard mode of the raid, but I don't dare go for it with another bunch of randoms for fear of sitting in a corner once more, listening to try hards as they talk about their 1000000 Exotics and Legendaries. In conclusion, people are more concerned with glitching a raid and gaining loot, than actually finishing it legit. [b]What is the point of glitching to get gear, when the gear is used for the Raid anyway? If you want play a dress up sim, go ahead and google a shitty flash game.[/b] For this asking I'm on xbone Gamertag AytonHunter Feel free to check out my clan Enigma Sphere and consider joining!