Shoulder charge and scorch aren't even close to the same thing. Hunters have awesome skills but you need skill to use them. Blade dancer already has a backstabbing perk and all the invisibility. Hungering blade for health. Quick draw no matter what fun you have, Blade trace is ridiculously op and they are so hard to kill before they kill you + razors edge gives range. Play to those strengths. Plus as a Titan I've been wrecked by the golden gun so many times. One shot kill btw no matter what spec I have. And it quickly refreshes. Chains of woe, gunslingers trance (more stability), knife juggler or two knives, scavenger for even more cdr. I swear, reading these posts, that hunters have no clue how to set themselves up for pvp or what to do when they get there. Yet there are hunters dominating every game, so maybe it's not the titans...