i couldnt agree more....i was on VOG for 7 fkn hours one day as ppl would join and hour into it they would have to leave and it would take us time to find another player then get him into his spot he is comfortable with and into a rhythm..this repeated multiple times until a 2-4 hour VOG map took 7 hours.....since that tme i have not played or even tried to set up a VOG run as i want ppl that are more reliable.. great post and so true on all counts