Yeah I don't even touch those. I give Activision the benefit of the doubt when it comes to developers like Bungie, just letting them do their thing and make a great game. I've had fun with Destiny, but not as much fun as I've had with Borderlands, Diablo, Guild Wars... hell I even want to go back and play some Ghosts multiplayer right now, maybe even jump onto BF and fly some jets into the ground.