[quote] No man has the right to be an amateur in the matter of physical training. It is a shame for a man to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which his body is capable. [/quote]      -Socrates
Sounds like you need a new hobby.
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	Edited by PietjeVM: 10/2/2014 5:50:48 AMMany athletes say vegan works better for them (does the gif work?)
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	Non-vegan.
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	Because there are more non vegans, so there's a bigger chance the most extreme person is non vegan
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	Cause that's what works best.
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	If you eat the right nutrients, why would vegan be bad?
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	Veganism isn't bad, there are just more effective methods for bodybuilding.
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	You know you live longer if you don't take too much proteins, don't you? The faster you grow, the faster you die.
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	That's probably true, but I'm not looking to extend my life as much as shorten it.
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	What if you eat vegan and take supplements?
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	Supplements(protein etc.) are generally derived from plants, so to get that animal protein(it's more effective) you have to eat meat.
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	When animal protein is more effective, why can't you just take MORE plant protein?
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	Quality>quantity
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	So YOUR muscles are more important than thousends of animals and people?
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