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9/29/2014 8:45:35 PM
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Its 100 bucks including 2 dlc's. Quit complaining. You purchased entertainment, are you not entertained? You bought something someone else created, do you have the right to tell them how to sell it? You saw a youtube video showing maps, can you gaurentee me that the content is finished? And back to my first point. Its 100 bucks total. 100 bucks. 100. Split up over 3 months mind you. If thats gonna kill your bank account then please stop playing games and dedicate that lost time to fixing your life. And for those saying its ruining gaming by them releasing dlc.... think of how much it costs to make a game. really think of everything involved in this day and age to create a game. Insert the fact that just like the movie and book industry new and original ideas are hard to come by. Where does that money come from? Investors. What do they want? On something like a game/movie somewhere around 50-100 percent increase on return than they invested. Thats how they make money. How do you presume they could do that with an online game requireing constant updates/patches/monitoring with no monthly fee and a one time box price of 60 bucks? You cant. Add in activision breathing down your neck and you realize youre going to be forced to gut your game and sell it piece by piece. Willing to bet it was not the original plan but more of a panick button smash when the numbers quit adding up right.
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If i sold you a car with the back seat and glove compartment locked, would you be happy to pay extra to have them unlocked?
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If you sold me a car for 60 bucks yeah im cool with that. Also if i paid 20k for this game id want it perfect. Please pick a more similar comparison if youre trying to make a point.
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Okay, let me tell you about conversion. Lets compare a brand new 60 dollar game to a brand new 20,000 car. Standard prices for goods and services. Now there is a standard amount of content held in a video game and a car. Last gen games were 6.5 gigs (roughly) and that was the amount of content involved in the game. Cars are different as some features are optional and the price is adjusted because of it features. But dealers still charge a certain amount compared to the content of the car. Now Imagine parts if of the game were locked so that only those who payed extra could gain access. The content is there, you just can't use it yet. This is comparable to a car dealer locking your truck, radio or other such thing, that only he can unlock for a price. Except, the car dealer would be losing a bit because of the cost of the things that were made for the car that you don't buy. A video game developer only needs to make that content once, and can continually profit from that content. But most game developers and and car dealers wouldn't do this. Because it is a dirty move by game developers and a potential profit lose for car dealers.
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Thats assuming the content is finished. Also how do you think they plan on getting an entire dlc finished from scratch in 3 months? Im willing to bet its 90 percent done and on disk with the last 10 percent of polishing being downloaded when it releases. Had they just kept it entirely off disk it would still be near completion by now with a release date so soon so by putting whats finished already on disk it saves the consumer time and puts less stress on servers giving a smaller chance of crashes and errors when everyone goes to download them at release. I just think everyone is overreacting and jumping the gun on the ragewagon
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Dude. The levels were there in the alpha. There isn't any shining left to do. The levels are done with ghosts, enemies and everything. And have been since the alpha. They cut it out so they could charge you for it. They are only taking your money. If it was part of a timed event where we gained access for free it would be fine. But it is in the game. Why are you defending a company that cuts up it's games and acts like it is more content? It's like subway making their regular sandwich smaller and selling the regular size one for a buck more.
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The original 60dollars gave us a 10-15hour campaign ( of repetitive content) then a week long raid (the time it took to figure out yourself how to beat it) and unbalanced broken pvp without dedicated servers. This in itself is worth 30dollars. Why? Because its exactly what one of the "expansions" is. A few missions a few strikes and a raids. This game is a moneygrab. TO CONTINUE PLAYING YOU MUST PAY FOR THE EXPANSIONS. There is no more free content. These two dlcs should have been free because they both reside on earth and venus. Also they supplement the exact amount of missions/strikes/raids that the game came with. This is completely ignoring the fact that each mission played was in the exact same level and you were just opening one extra door each mission until you reached the boss.
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But cod is worth 60 bucks? 8 hours of campaign thats a rehash of every other shooter and multiplayer thats nothing but repetetive. Same can be said for bf4. Or youre into mmos. In which case 50 bucks for a wow xpac that added pandas? What really constitutes worth. Assume all games are 60 bucks. Did you enjoy it? Yes? Great. No? Big deal its only 60 bucks. Dont like it move on. Oh there was hype so you got your hopes up and was let down because nothing could really achieve what the hype created??? Welcome to gaming/movies/politics/life. Remember disneyland as a kid? Now thats something thats fails to reach the hype (even at 7)
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Free mmos stop at around level 60-100 this stopped at 20. Plus those mmos were actually different. Different enemies and different tactics had to be used. Now looking at the fps aspect. The game is way too unbalanced for a shooter and there are too many variables. They promised more than we got.
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Free MMO's that look like garbage compared to Destiny. Leveling doesnt stop at 20 last time I checked... Different tactics? You mean pressing 1,3,2 instead of 1,2,3? Yeah, MMO's sure had the better gameplay with the tab-targetting and press hotkey action. Zzzzzz What unbalance are you talking about?
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Edited by SIlMPLlClITY: 9/29/2014 9:55:13 PMMy bad 29 when you upgrade your gear. Also some mmos look very similar in graphics(in quality of course they dont have the same things) and they aren't 30fps. Are you saying this game is balanced. Oh boy... And the different tactics are pretty much different tactics. You dont just approach the monsters by just shooting at them because they are meat sponges. The raid boss is an example of just some of the basic bosses in mmos
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Level cap is 30 bro... I'm having a hard time comparing the gorgeous environments of Destiny to your free MMO's. If you honestly believe there's competition between the 2, I don't know what to tell you... And no, quantity is not better than quality for Destiny. What's wrong with 30FPS? Are you just bitter than its not 60FPS and therefore think its worse off for doing so? That's a pretty lame reason. Yeah, I am saying the game is balanced. Im still waiting for you to give me examples instead of dodging the question. So, you're telling me that the Molten Core fights were more than the tank and spanks they all basically were? You wanna talk about a boring raid...lets talk about MC. And, you're playing a FPS (First Person Shooter) were you expecting something else besides shooting things?
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Ok 30. The 30fps doesnt make me bitter its just a bit unattractive as it doesnt run as smooth as other games, but just because I mentioned it doesnt mean its a big thing. Its a small thing. The campaign is the exact same thing. The pvp is shotgun and super only (your primaries are secondaries). The strikes are pointless because you dont get anything good as the chances are really low to get anything good out of it and the raid is fun but you can only do it once and yes you can do it on hard but the only different reward is the vex weapons so not much motivation (for my group at least)
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Games runs smooth at 30FPS. The 60 FPS is an elitist gripe. Shotgun is getting a range nerf. I admit that it sucks turning a corner into a SG, but hey, if they saw you down a long hallway, they're screwed. Its about map/radar awareness. Strikes give you Vanguard marks which are anything but pointless. Raids have always been week long lockouts since they first became a thing, or it become a popular way to handle them.
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Its not quite enough of an mmo to be able to actually compare to mmo's and yet just enough of one to create an atmosphear and pve aspect that tends to create unbalance. Im sure the balance portion will be a constant battle of patches and tweaks the lifespan of the game. The real problem in my mind is that it falls almost too much inbetween game types meaning you get the benefits of both but also the short coming of each. Lending to both double the praise in some regards but also double the critisism. You make a valid point but thats more a problem of the game to its core more so than the issue of game cost + dlc cost. And core issues are more based on personal preference and bungies ability to fix or patch those issues as time goes on. Which may or may not make the game great or destroy it. I have high hopes though
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This is an excuse people are using. Its a fps not an mmo its a mmo not a fps. Its both and you look at it from both ways.
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Edited by SIlMPLlClITY: 9/29/2014 9:05:00 PMAlso please stop saying that the developers and publishers need to make their money back. The 500m dollars is over 10years. Plus they already passed that sum on pre orders alone
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Well, how else do you expect Bungie to support a game for 10+ years if all they do is rely on the single purchase of Destiny? Seriously? I'm so surprised at how people think Bungie is trying to steal money with their DLC. None of you people have the faintest idea about running a business in one of the most difficult industries.
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Of course you add dlcs. But the game individually is small. And the dlcs are adding 5-6missions(probably killing the same things) a strike (will get boring fast) and a raid(only good part but not worth the price)
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Sure, the core game could've had more content, I'm not gonna argue that. But I think it has ENOUGH content to keep me busy until the DLC. We've basically traded the cost of a subscription fee, for staggered content releases. And I'm pretty much okay with this.
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Youre one of the few.
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Apparently. A little surprised by it as well. But at least we're getting some answers. https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2hrpzx/ama_request_someone_from_bungie_or_activision_who/ckvowy2
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i'm surprised people like you are defending this BS.
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It's only BS to you because you want your game and you want it now, doesnt matter if it burns the company, instant gratification gimme my cake now, or watch me throw a tantrum. I know, it's hard to grow up.
