Bungie should talk to both Sony & MS about moving Crucible to their respective cloud gaming services - I feel this would alleviate a raft of errors encountered. This would also reduce server load for Bungie, as these servers would no longer be used for matchmaking, and theses resources could then be used by PvE mode, which may in turn reduce any issues in PvE mode. But hey, what do I know; I'm just the guy covered in bee stings every time I go into the Crucible. [quote] My NAT is open Static IP used for my Xbox Static IP is in DMZ Recommend ports from both XBL & those mentioned in Centipede error open and pointing to static IP Other games - no problem. Destiny - will I ever get to play PvP without [b]bee[/b]-ing booted? [/quote]