[quote]Just like how there are also equal starts in Halo 4? [/quote] i'm sorry, where did you hear in prerelease that halo 4 would have equal starts? all i heard was the vague notion that halo 4 "feels like halo" [which, in terms of a core gunplay standpoint, it indeed does. however arbitrary "feelings" might be.] and in response to your other post where you say [quote]it's not surprising that 343 will market a "next gen arena shooter" and a "feels like classic Halo competitive multiplayer" and deliver a product nothing like that, since they've done exactly that before.[/quote] i have no idea where you heard the words "next gen arena shooter" in halo 4's marketing. and all i heard was "feels like halo," not the additional words you've put in. i don't know how people claim false advertising when you have something like the making halo 4: infinity vidoc or when you have articles like [url=http://www.totalxbox.com/34484/features/343-halo-4-cant-just-regurgitate-the-same-experience/]this.[/url] [quote]Just saying, these loadouts are something to be careful about if they're going to try to prove that Halo is going to better places.[/quote] considering we have a 3 week, 7 map beta exclusively dedicated to zero loadout arena gameplay, i'm going to say it's a semi decent bet that 343 are at least heading in the right direction. how far they go in said direction is another thing [let's hope that spartan groundpound isn't a bad omen].