Will be able to play Destiny if I don't have xbox live or is that what you meant by no payment? PLEASE ANSWER.
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You have to have a Gold Subscription to play online with an Xbox.
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I'm not talking about that. They said you could play with making payments so I asked if I would need Gold to play Destiny.
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In order to play any game online with an Xbox, you need a Gold Subscription. All "Free-to-Play" means is that there will not be any Subscription Fees like in World of Warcraft; You will not have to pay to play Destiny. You still have to pay your internet provider, Light bill and Taxes and if you're not on a PS3 (Assuming PS4's really do make you pay for PS+) you'll have to pay for your console's internet access. That should cover any further questions.
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They do make you use ps +, but at least there are good rewards.
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Ehhh the free with gold system is a start for M$, sure the games are old, but at least I get to keep them if I miss a payment of Gold. Not that I will. (Mines been paid off until December 2017)
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I still like the benefits I get with ps +, but ok.