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originally posted in: Code of Ethics for Male Gamers
10/26/2013 4:55:50 AM
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[quote]You should be fired for telling any stranger that, regardless of their sex.[/quote] This is what we do on multiplayer games everyday and it's considered to be fine. Why is the situation any different. [quote]Why would I ever do that?[/quote] You just said that we need to treat everyone the same. So you're saying that I should treat random people the same as our closes friends when we are on the internet. [quote]But not if a female coworker said it?[/quote] In what situation does the female co-worker crack sex joke. That's like saying a guy is going purse shopping. It doesn't happen often and you should understand that. [quote] I expect some female to find it funny as I do with males. I, a male, wouldn't find it funny since it's not my humour. I know some females who's humour that is.[/quote] Some as in not the majority, as in the group that I am aiming for. I don't care about the people who don't fall under the majority because they clearly don't fall into this category and would not even bother to comment. [quote]You need to stop generalising and realise that both sexes are diverse; each individual has their own tastes. Not all males like sex jokes and not all females hate them. I'm telling you to treat everyone the same (as a general person, not sex jokes and such) until you get to know them. I don't know if you've heard about this thing called feminism/equality/individuality, but that's what this is. Treat everyone as equals, but not the same. Use your discretion. Be mature, if possible, and try to think about other people's points of view.[/quote] What you are trying to do is appease everyone by saying "treat everyone the same" You are playing to the minority. " Not all males like sex jokes and not all females hate them." I hate to burst that little bubble that you live in but most guys that play online multiplayer game jokes and most girls don't want to here those jokes. There has to be some kind of middle ground reached, but you are saying "-blam!- the middle ground all let me treat everyone the same because that's what they thought me in school today." In some situations you have to understand that the "treat everyone the same rule" does not apply and should not be applied. You treat everyone the way you want to be treated. You don't treat everyone the same because treating everyone the same is retarded.
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  • Okay that makes a lot more sense now lol

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  • Yeah when they start name calling or posting paragraphs I just start winging it.

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  • Edited by Komatose: 11/7/2013 5:02:04 AM
    Yeah I try to stay away from name calling but sometimes people get under my skin like when they start bringing mental capacity into arguments because I work with special needs children :)

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  • I know how you feel. I have to explain what sexism is to people who keep saying that I'm sexes

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  • [quote]sometimes claimed by Christianity as its own[/quote] True, christianity has claimed more things from other cultures. Christmas for example. The only thing you just did was posting some biblical texts. Nothing "history" about that.

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  • That's because there are so many versions of the Golden Rule. Ok time to put you down. You first said that I was bringing up Jesus and [quote]Plus, the bible said: "Don't do anything to other's that you don't want to be done to yourself"[/quote]. When I called you out for being wrong you then changed your argument to religions world wide. I think we are done here.

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  • [quote]changed your argument to religions world wide.[/quote] No. I just think bringing in religion is retarded as fu­ck. But if that floats your little autistic boat, that's okay.

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  • Then just say that instead of misquoting the Bible and trying to look smart.

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  • It's both. The bible has been translated into multiple languages, moron

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  • Why you go to the different translations when we are both clearly English speaking Americans, I have no idea

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  • Because I'm not a fu­cking American?

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  • Treat everyone the way they would want to be treated. Not everyone is like you.

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  • Yeah and that's where your logic is flawed. You can't threat each random person the way they want to be treated. You have to be smart and figure that people want to be treated with respect.

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  • So you're telling me people don't want to be treated with respect? I said treat them the way they wanted to be treated, most likely they want to be treated with respect. You said treat them the way you want to be treated, but not everyone wants to be treated like you. They have different tastes and opinions. Do you see my point and the major flaw in your argument?

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  • Yes because not everyone will tell you how they want to be treated. It's not like I start each match by saying "ok everyone, I want to be treated with respect." How stupid would I look. You treat everyone the way you would want to be treated. Like I said before, your logic is flawed.

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  • No, my logic isn't flawed. Everyone agrees with me. I'm not telling you to say you want to be respected, just respect other. I for one know that I don't want to be treated the way you want to be treated. We are two very different people, that's a fact. Maybe you're incapable of figuring out how other people would want to be treated (with respect and whatnot), I understand that now. You think everyone is the same, except females, they should be treated like princesses. I hope you understand that I'm insulting you, but just incase you may take this as conformation of such. I don't plan on muting you because I want to see you understand what I mean. I'm not mad that you don't, it's a strange concept for some because of the world we live in. You have to understand that no one else in the world is like you, you are unique and in that regard alone. If you only treat people the way you want to be treated then you aren't treating them as the diverse individual that they are. Treat them with respect until you get a notion of who they are. If they are an idiot, treat them as such; if they are a troll, treat them as such; if they are a genuine person who is trying to have fun, treat them as such. That's honestly why I enjoy B.net. We all come here for the stats but stay for the lame jokes. We now understand that we are all different and we respect each other for that. Yes, we get into arguments and yes, we disagree, but we still have that mutual respect that this site thrives off of. I do hope you understand what I mean at some point soon because if you don't you'll be chewed out. Some people are quite close on this site, they'd even call each other friends. We're a tight-knit community that doesn't tend to stand for discrimination, even when someone doesn't realise that they are discriminating people. I hope you'll take my meanings soon.

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  • [quote]No, my logic isn't flawed. Everyone agrees with me. I'm not telling you to say you want to be respected, just respect other. I for one know that I don't want to be treated the way you want to be treated. We are two very different people, that's a fact. Maybe you're incapable of figuring out how other people would want to be treated (with respect and whatnot), I understand that now. You think everyone is the same, except females, they should be treated like princesses. I hope you understand that I'm insulting you, but just incase you may take this as conformation of such.[/quote] No, not everyone agrees with you. Hell more people agree with me then you on this one. You are suggesting that you don't want to be treated with respect. That you only want to treat people the way that they want to be treated which means that you are going to be asking every person "how do you want me to treat you?" How retarded is that. How much since does that make. Instead of assuming that everyone is going to expect to be treated with respect, you want to ask them just to make sure. I mean I hate arguing with unintelligent people like you on this site who keep on saying "oh well you don't need to treat females any differently then males. Yeah sorry but that's bullshit. Society as a whole tends to treat women differently then men. This is not shocking seeing how women are not men. You are trying to group everyone in one big pot and say that no one is different and that's what is so RETARDED about your argument. [quote] I don't plan on muting you because I want to see you understand what I mean. I'm not mad that you don't, it's a strange concept for some because of the world we live in. You have to understand that no one else in the world is like you, you are unique and in that regard alone. If you only treat people the way you want to be treated then you aren't treating them as the diverse individual that they are. Treat them with respect until you get a notion of who they are. If they are an idiot, treat them as such; if they are a troll, treat them as such; if they are a genuine person who is trying to have fun, treat them as such.[/quote] Clearly you don't read the Bible or even go to church, because if you did then you would know that there is one saying that rings throughout Christianity and the world, "Do on to others the way you would have them do onto you." This is the golden rule for LIFE my friend. You treat people the way that you would like to be treated. So if you want to be treated with respected then you treat everyone around you with respect. [quote] Treat them with respect until you get a notion of who they are. If they are an idiot, treat them as such; if they are a troll, treat them as such; if they are a genuine person who is trying to have fun, treat them as such.[/quote] This is -blam!-ed up in so many ways. You don't drop down to a troll's level. You be the bigger man and continue to be respectful. Why you are suggesting is something that would start wars. Something like that has start wars. You don't be an asshole because someone is being an asshole. How does that fix anything. How does that make a situation better. It doesn't and that's why your logic is FLAWED. [quote] That's honestly why I enjoy B.net. We all come here for the stats but stay for the lame jokes. We now understand that we are all different and we respect each other for that. Yes, we get into arguments and yes, we disagree, but we still have that mutual respect that this site thrives off of. I do hope you understand what I mean at some point soon because if you don't you'll be chewed out. Some people are quite close on this site, they'd even call each other friends. We're a tight-knit community that doesn't tend to stand for discrimination, even when someone doesn't realize that they are discriminating people. I hope you'll take my meanings soon.[/quote] We treat each other with respect because that's the way we want to be treated. Because that's what we come to expect, but if you are using B.net as an outlier for society as a whole then you are crazy. This place is dysfunctional. With troll everywhere and people arguing just because. There is no mutual respect here. People come here a treat others like crap for no good reason. This place is crazy, but that's a good thing because it's supposed to be. It's supposed to be a madhouse of ideas and arguments. A melting port of different people and different ideas. Respect here is not given and earned and sometimes never showed at all. That's what B.net is. So to end this. I'm not going to agree with your messed up logic because there is no way in hell that I could.

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  • Everything makes sense now. I didn't even have to read all of this and I understand.

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  • lol Arguing with him is impossible.

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  • You understand that im right.

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  • Let's go with that.

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  • And that you are wrong

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  • Whatever makes you feel better.

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  • This isn't about me feeling better about myself. It's about you knowing that your way of thinking is messed up.

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  • Got it, you're totally right. Thank you for clearing the haze that clouded my vision and showing me the light.

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