[quote]There's nothing to refute, it's just a bunch of obvious claims which don't support why they don't believe in god.[/quote]This is the kind of thing I just recommended you *avoid*, man. [quote]"There's no definite evidence he exists" even though the same goes to the beginning of the universe.[/quote]The Big Bang theory is a scientific theory whose truth is entirely dependent on fitting-with-observable-phenomena. Deities are not. [quote]How can you all believe the universe started when you have no evidence or facts about it?[/quote][url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubble%27s_law]Yo.[/url] [quote]The Big Bang isn't the start by the way, just why it's expanding.[/quote]The Big Bang Theory definitely *does* deal with the start of the observable universe. [quote]Black holes are still a science mystery but people claim they believe in what they are (even though they don't have any evidence or facts).[/quote]Depending on the amount of empirical support for the claims, those people are of varying degrees of correctness. [quote]There are many hypocritical arguments from anyone claiming that science is needed to prove God.[/quote]Name one. That's not a smug dare; I really want to know.