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Edited by The Great DanTej:
8/7/2013 4:32:07 AM
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People die all the time from alcohol and tobacco, and all of their many complications = alcohol and tobacco are perfectly legal
No one has ever, and will never, die from marijuana, because it simply isn't toxic enough to do harm = THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!
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Edited by GrandmasterNinja: 8/23/2013 4:09:34 PMActually, I AM THINKING OF THE CHILDREN! Marijuana causes severe brain development issues. Which means the day you start smoking weed, is the kind of state your brain is probably going to remain in. Think of all the dumb things you thought were cool as a teenager, now imagine you being 35 and STILL thinking those things are cool. That's what weed does, it doesn't kill you, it just makes you a moron.
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I smoked all through middle and highschool. My brain didnt perpetually stay 15 years old, now theat im 33 acording to you my mind shouldnt be any more developed than it was when i started smoking at age 15......if thats the case i shouldnt be able to hold down a job, take care of my kids, or do any of the normal adult things that i would do on the daily. Your logic is.....well.....not logical to be honest.
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Okay...so your 15 year old mind was capable of doing such things. What is your job?
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I work as a maintenance technician. Plumbing, electrical, appliance repair, painting, drywall work...you name it i do it
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I just want to let you know that Mary-Jane isn't as bad as I was making it out to be. But there are harmful side-effects for people who frequently smoke it over a long period of time.
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Same with cigarettes, yet those are legal.
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Dude there are harmful side effect to everything
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False. This was discussed in my college psychology class and the effects on the mind. If people who smoke marijuana seem like idiots it's because they're inconsistent, like so: Someone is in class high during a lesson, but shows up for the test sober they'll do worse. If they show up high for the test as they did for the lecture, they'll do better. The same applies for sobriety and taking the tests and lecture. That, and if someone stops smoking marijuana after years of smoking, they still maintain the same learning abilities as someone who's never smoked. They simply might have some catching up to do if they weren't consistent about it.
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"brain severe development" You don't even smoke pot and look how you turned out lmfao.
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you're a tough guy aren't you lol
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Haha yeah :)
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Ok? You thought there wasn't an age limit if it were legal? It doesn't matter anyways because kids drink alcohol and smoke cigarettes. Some even do illicit drugs. -Blam!- some even [i]huff[/i]!
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9 out of 10 smokers started [i]by[/i] age 18. Which means MOST of them started doing it illegally. So yes making it legal will just make the general public even more prone to health problems and make it more affordable for minors to receive the drugs.
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Um... what? There isn't an age limit on weed because it's illegal. The reason minors are able to get it so easily because they can walk down the street and buy a gram for $20 easily. Now if it were regulated and sold like cigarettes, and maybe even processed into pastries, your in a different ball park because it'll be a lot harder to buy as a kid.
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I meant smokers as in TOBACCO CIGARETTES. Sorry for not being clear.
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[quote]Marijuana causes brain severe development issues.[/quote] * medical peer reviewed citation required*
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[quote] [url=http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana]SAUCE[/url][/quote] [quote]Effects on Life Research clearly demonstrates that marijuana has the potential to cause problems in daily life or make a person's existing problems worse. In fact, heavy marijuana users generally report lower life satisfaction, poorer mental and physical health, relationship problems, and less academic and career success compared to their peers who came from similar backgrounds. For example, marijuana use is associated with a higher likelihood of dropping out from school. Several studies also associate workers' marijuana smoking with increased absences, tardiness, accidents, workers' compensation claims, and job turnover.[/quote] [b][quote]Research has shown that, in chronic users, marijuana's adverse impact on learning and memory persists after the acute effects of the drug wear off; when marijuana use begins in adolescence, the effects may persist for many years. Research from different areas is converging on the fact that regular marijuana use by young people can have long-lasting negative impact on the structure and function of their brains.[/quote][/b] [quote]Marijuana use can have a variety of [b]adverse, short- and long-term effects, especially on cardiopulmonary and mental health.[/b] [b]Marijuana raises heart rate by 20-100 percent shortly after smoking; this effect can last up to 3 hours. In one study, it was estimated that marijuana users have a 4.8-fold increase in the risk of heart attack in the first hour after smoking the drug. [/b]This may be due to increased heart rate as well as the effects of marijuana on heart rhythms, causing palpitations and arrhythmias. This risk may be greater in older individuals or in those with cardiac vulnerabilities.[/quote] [quote]Marijuana and Driving Because it seriously impairs judgment and motor coordination, marijuana also contributes to accidents while driving. A recent analysis of data from several studies found that marijuana use more than doubles a driver’s risk of being in an accident. Further, the combination of marijuana and alcohol is worse than either substance alone with respect to driving impairment.[/quote] [quote][b]A number of studies have shown an association between chronic marijuana use and mental illness.[/b] [b]High doses of marijuana can produce a temporary psychotic reaction (involving hallucinations and paranoia) in some users, and using marijuana can worsen the course of illness in patients with schizophrenia.[/b] A series of large prospective studies also showed a [b]link between marijuana use and later development of psychosis. [/b]This relationship was influenced by genetic variables as well as the amount of drug used and the age at which it was first taken—those who start young are at increased risk for later problems.[/quote] Proof delivered.
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Apparently whoevet made these claims was smoking some bad weed, or it was laced lol
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Edited by DocSmurf: 8/8/2013 7:34:09 PMUnfortunately in order to properly refute this it would require me writing a formal retort with opposing medical research cited. i don't really have time to gather and write up that many resources for the sake of some post on the flood. If you actually get access to a medical database of research at your college i would ask you to look through it and also to look up independent research from other countries rather than just looking a .gov and going "government said it must be true." Particularly the first and final paragraphs are the most inaccurate to the research i have been reading. They make far to many assumptions and are far to broad. It is very very difficult to link anything to mental illness with any more convincing certainty than loose correlation. And saying that chronic users statistically have a worse life is just putting the cause before the effect. They are smoking Pot because they have troubles they are deciding to handle with cannabis, self medicating, they don't have the troubles because of cannabis. that's just backwards.
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Edited by Camnator: 8/8/2013 8:55:42 AMCannabis only protects and heals the brain, your claims are complete BS. Also, LESS teens would use it if it were legal.
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[quote][url=http://www.webmd.com/smoking-cessation/news/20121207/recreational-marijuana-health-effects]Here is some sauce[/url] [/quote] [quote]"Putting smoke in your lungs is not good for the lungs," says Roland Lamarine, HSD, professor of public health at California State University, Chico. He reviewed published studies on the health effects of marijuana earlier this year for the Journal of Drug Education. [b]Smoking marijuana produces a nearly threefold increase of inhaled tar compared with tobacco[/b], according to some studies. Other research suggests that marijuana smokers, compared to cigarette smokers, inhale more deeply and hold their breath longer. "There are still questions that aren't answered about lung damage," Lamarine says. For cigarette smokers who also smoke marijuana, there may be an additive effect, he says.[/quote]
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Who said you had to smoke it? I've always acknowledged it is SLIGHTLY damaging to the lungs when smoked, but that is the fault of combustion. It pales in comparison to cigarettes and the damage is temporary and easily reversible. Vaporizers and edibles easily counter than but no, an occasional bong hit is not going to kill your lungs or give you cancer. "Other research suggests that marijuana smokers, compared to cigarette smokers, inhale more deeply and hold their breath longer." Nice.
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Because legalizing marijuana means handing it out to all the kids and teens right?
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[url=http://www.cancer.org/cancer/cancercauses/tobaccocancer/questionsaboutsmokingtobaccoandhealth/questions-about-smoking-tobacco-and-health-why-do-people-start]According to the Surgeon General[/url]’s Report, very few people start smoking after age 25. Nearly 9 out of 10 adult smokers started by age 18, and 99% started by age 26. [quote][url=http://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/data_statistics/fact_sheets/youth_data/tobacco_use/]Each day in the United States, nearly 4,000 people younger than 18 years of age smoke their first cigarette, and an estimated 1,000 youth in that age group become new daily cigarette smokers.2,6 This means that nearly 400,000 young people become daily smokers each year.[/url][/quote] So yes legalizing it will open it up to more kids due to it being safe to buy and more affordable.
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I'm not sure why your using tobacco statistics to argue against marijuana; rotten apples to cancer curing oranges...(well, close enough to cancer curing)
