[quote]a theist is defined as someone who holds the belief (to some degree of certainty) that God exists.[/quote] What's "some degree"? What's "belief"? If you're going to debate semantics, then you have to explain what you mean by these vague terms. I would hold that an agnostic deist/theist/polytheist is by definition admitting to having absolutely zero degree of certainty. The word agnostic itself screams at everyone who hears it that the person is admitted to a complete lack of knowledge and proof. You're still trying to lump all theistic belief into one category and you're simply not allowed to do that. Who cares what you or anyone else thinks is "meaningful"? This is not an insult or an attack but rather me pointing out that it's not up to any other person to decide whether one's beliefs or feelings are "meaningful". It's not "practical" to ponder whether or not the belief is consistent with reason for very long because there is no empirical proof for the negative or the positive. [quote]To reiterate: when someone is a theist/desist/polytheist/etc., they are making some claim about reality.[/quote] When someone is a gnostic theist/deist/polytheist/etc., they are making a claim about reality. When someone is an agnostic theist/deist/polytheist/etc., they are making a claim about their complete lack of certainty about the nature of reality. This is proven by the very nature and definition of the word "agnostic". I have no earthly clue how you can debate this.