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Edited by RighteousTyrant: 3/14/2013 5:13:53 PM
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Why does Homeland Security need 20 years' worth of ammo?

[quote]The Denver Post, on February 15th, ran an Associated Press article entitled Homeland Security aims to buy 1.6b rounds of ammo, so far to little notice. It confirmed that the Department of Homeland Security has issued an open purchase order for 1.6 billion rounds of ammunition. As reported elsewhere, some of this purchase order is for hollow-point rounds, forbidden by international law for use in war, along with a frightening amount specialized for snipers. Also reported elsewhere, at the height of the Iraq War the Army was expending less than 6 million rounds a month. [u][b]Therefore 1.6 billion rounds would be enough to sustain a hot war for 20+ years. In America.[/b][/u][/quote](emphasis mine) Sense, this does not make. The article then goes on to mention the armored personnel carriers that they are also buying (and giving to police departments), equipped with gun ports. One simple question: Why? EDIT to add: There's also this bit: [quote] “When I was first introduced to Obama (when both worked at the University of Chicago Law School, where Lott was famous for his analysis of firearms possession), he said, ‘Oh, you’re the gun guy.’ I responded: ‘Yes, I guess so.’ ’I don’t believe that people should own guns,’ Obama replied. I then replied that it might be fun to have lunch and talk about that statement some time. He simply grimaced and turned away. … Unlike other liberal academics who usually enjoyed discussing opposing ideas, Obama showed disdain.”[/quote] Obama doesn't [i]want [/i]to take our guns? Bullshit!

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  • Edited by M37h3w3: 3/14/2013 10:13:05 PM
    [quote]Fact: Lake City ammo plant’s annual production is 1.6 BILLION, total, which is 6% of the Pentagon’s annual requirement. If that is the Pentagon’s annual requirement, then they were shooting a hell of a lot more ammo than 5,000,000 per month in Iraq. THESE figures were published in various arms trade magazines three to six years ago. Also, Aviation Week And Space Technology. By GAO’s own numbers, they fired 250,000 rounds per kill in Iraq. And killed A LOT. http://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/the-u-s-has-fired-250-000-bullets-for-every-insurgent-killed-in-iraq-afghanistan.180858/ http://jonathanturley.org/2011/01/10/gao-u-s-has-fired-250000-rounds-for-every-insurgent-killed/ So, at this enlightening figure, DHS doesn’t have a whole lot of ammo, certainly not enough to control Detroit. Good article….The Great Ammunition Myth. http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/342161/great-ammunition-myth-charles-c-w-cooke In a weekend class, we shoot about 8,000 rounds. Sounds like a lot, eh? Well, 15 students, but it’s only 533 rounds per student. Every round is a controlled training experience. No blasting wildly. Some serious SWAT schools will have students firing 10,000 rounds in four days. They will burn out a barrel in four days in their M4 5.56 carbine. So, while some speculate that the USG is buying up all the ammo, it’s bogus. Citizens will buy about 16 to 18 BILLION ROUNDS this year.[/quote] From the comments in the article. Also consider: They said they have an open order for 1.6 billion bullets. No where does the article state that they are stockpiling these bullets. Just that they have an open order. It sounds like to me that the government (knowing that they use a lot of bullets given how it has to train recruits in how to shoot and the fact that we are engaged in a war) when asked how much they wanted, put up a huge request and is buying what the supplier can produce to meet their day to day demands. Side note: It truly is entertaining to read the comments. They all boil down to this: SOCIALIST COMMIE MUSLIM RADICAL KING BARACK OSAMA OBAMA THE FIRST IS GOING TO DECLARE WAR ON US TRUE RED BLOODED AMERICANS! AND KILL US IN THE STREET!

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