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3/9/2026 9:28:17 PM
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Did anyone play desert perpetual?
I didn’t. And I only did salvations edge a few times - I didn’t find it fun even though the spectacle of it all was good.
I know there is always that argument that raids need to be for the top end and challenging but I disagree. Raids should be about friends or groups of people coming together, enjoying the game and getting good loot.
To follow that up. I don’t think every item in the game should be easy to obtain but I think it would have been better to make dungeons/3 man activities/solo experiences where the real difficulty should have been enabled.
The feat system is not good and a ‘fun’ raid like crota or deep stone would have retained the raiding lfg a bit longer.
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1 ReplyEdited by LeluDallas MultiPass: 3/11/2026 8:17:36 PMParts of it ... there's nothing I hate more than long needless traversals. I love the mechanics of Salvations Edge, but avoid it cuz I dread all the traversals. Yes, I can shatterskate... but not everyone on the team can, so whats the point of rushing to be the first one at a friendship door or rally banner? Waiting there alone is even more boring than climbing 87 paracausal platforms & 42 calcified tree branches. I dont mind if they make the raids challenging, but when they make long traversals that add to the already-long encounters... it reduces the amount of time a person can spend learning mechanics & maximizing damage.
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Decent raid, fun encounters, cool boss. Epic raid first 3 encounters were less fun than the original ones, final boss was one of the best raid encounters to date. Feats weren't fun and were required to consistently get tier 5 weapons. It was a decent raid held back by the systems introduced at the same time as it came out causing a lot of player burnout.
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39 RepliesOnce raids started to become an esport is when raids started becoming worse. They started making raids for the day one clears after they got the backlash for Ron being to easy. Honestly Ron was a fun raid and you could bring anyone in and teach them. But SE and DP aren't made for people to sherpa and there is no forgiveness in the raid due to timers, so you can't learn/teach without people getting frustrated with the timers. They need to dial the raids back a hell of a lot to have them enjoyable for 30% of players instead of 5%. Again raids are a big draw for people and if no one plays them there is no reason to make them.
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I lost any real desire to play after SE seal completion. I had all the seals to be honest; but EoF basically pushed me out. I had no desire to regrind all the existing god rolls I already had. I returned for one attempt to see what was so bad about portal and I made it to the first time you turn into a blob for a mission and decided this game is not destiny anymore. I just got so sick of all the nerfs, the constant play how we want you to play crap, the broken stuff that stays broken 15 years down the line but if there’s a glitch that gives you an extra 5 shards they need it into oblivion in 2 seconds. I honestly never felt the same after my clan disbanded as the people I played with were what made D1 special to me; they killed all the hero moments where you could 3 man Axis to save the run, now everyone has to be perfect or it causes a wipe and that results in people getting pissed and I just don’t like the raid style anymore. I liked destiny 1’s darker not as cartoonish feel, the fact you couldn’t spam abilities every two seconds, and that exotic weapons, ornaments, shaders, emblems all meant something special. If you saw a level 30 in pearl white in D1 you knew something about him, if you saw a Scarab emblem and ornamented armor in Trials you knew he was good. Now it’s all so filled with cheaters and nothing feels must have because everyone gets everything. I’m not bitter I just hate that I lost a game I spent so much time in and wish I could have that feeling again.
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I got the tittle, but I didn’t really like the raid. It’s alright but the community around it is a bit elite. For better or for worse. I didn’t like the road tbh but there are some good things about it. That being said the hydra checkpoint is the worst oart and is absolutely awful.
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[quote]l. Raids should be about friends or groups of people coming together, enjoying the game and getting good loot. [/quote]
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1 ReplyThey started building raids to be watched, not to be played.
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I only did the final boss once with a friend.
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Edited by JA: 3/12/2026 12:00:53 PMDid the title for Both, found SE fun initially as it feels like it has a build up for final encounter(witness) but soon got tedious week after week as majority of people struggled with verity. DP just felt like complete -blam!- imo, didn’t feel like a raid more a pantheon style activity/gauntlet. The loot system was just not it could have been done better. The chests were a pain In the -blam!- if playing with 1st timers and the badge for the seal was a RNG f**k fest. TLDR: I appreciate them putting more thought into the encounters but end of the day if people won’t play it because they are hearing something is a tedious/annoying time (verity for most) then why make it.
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SE and DP are just straight up not fun raids. I played the rest a fair bit but I don’t touch those
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4 RepliesI just did a teaching run of SE yesterday. Hands down my favorite raid. Have one or two completions of DP, but need to learn all the various roles and mechanics. Problem is no one teaches it via fireteam finder. In general, most raid "teaching" listings are actually stat farmers. If you have even a single clear they won't accept your application. They don't teach anyway. They go straight to the final encounter to kill the boss and collect their "sherpa" stats. Some of them are genuinely nasty people as well. Apparently seeing their name climb up a contrived leaderboard by any means necessary gives them a purpose in life.
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2 RepliesI actually sided with the witness so I never completed salvations edge
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Edited by xStopShootinMe: 3/10/2026 9:34:12 PMRaids need difficulty levels, they have for a while now.
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Yeah. It's quite good. Sadly the loot isn't all that, which is a shame.
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1 ReplyRaids I have 0 attempts in Vow Of The Disciple Salvations Edge Desert Perpetual I don't mind raid mechanics, but those raids are overboard
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Yeah, a few times. I know it has a reputation for being difficult, but thats purely fron the contest mode reputation. As a normal mode experience its actually one of the easier raids to both skill and mechanics wise. The hard part is just getting people with mics that want to talk. The problem with Ron was they gave too many people add clear roles and thats not what good raids are about. Especially at a time when we were way strong. Ad clear is a somewhat easy but necessary job, just not job that should have more then 2 people doing it. Root ended up with 4 people fighting over kills like a strike with the two other people actually doing something interesting.
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3 RepliesEdited by A485258: 3/10/2026 6:45:44 AMThe hardcore v. casual debate is tiresome. From what I can interpret most people who argue this, in this forum, rarely define what a hardcore or casual player is in the first place and their attempt at logic often suspect. The best answer to what you are talking about is probably whatever gets the most and sustained engagement. Some people argue “casual”, some argue “hardcore”. Coincidentally, with Marathon’s release we get to see your question answered as Marathon’s fate plays out over the next year.
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4 RepliesI haven't. I would like to run it and salvation edge one day.
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I did. It's not bad and honestly the Feats system becomes an afterthought once you're used to everything. After a few runs, you'll always have Battalions, Token Limit, and Phase Limit on instinctually. Maybe even Challenges if you're feeling a little spicy. The only one that's a drag to get through is Cutthroat.
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3 RepliesI mean clearly people played there are day 1 clears and emblems out there.
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https://discord.com/channels/356833056562348042/1396280409913950228 Your chances of finding a team are somewhat better on discord than the ingame one. Unless it's after ~10pm EST.
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My team played normal and epic enough for everyone to get the title and all of the weapons they wanted. After that there is no point.
