Either tryhards that are clearly playing on MnK in console lobbies which I'm pretty sure is cheating in several games including destiny, actual cheaters, or nonstop spawn killing. I don't care what map or mode I'm in, if I'm getting spawn killed, especially by multiple shooters for like 80% of my deaths within the first 5-8 seconds or the game keeps spawning me in the same place I just died in, either the number of players needs to be reduced, spawn invincibility added, or they need to start banning people for it because getting spawn killed that frequently in any other game would have seen those players banned for griefing and/ or cheating via spawn manipulation. I cannot for the life of me figure out how anyone can find that fun, especially if you have the misfortune of pairing against a group IN A FFA MODE, MEANING EVERYONE IS SUPPOSED TO BE AGAINST EACH OTHER, MEANING THEY ARE CHEATING BY DEFAULT EVEN IF THE GAME DOESN'T STOP THEM FROM GROUPING UP. I know how good I am, and yet I'm dying in ways that I know are simply not possible repeatedly, or the game keeps putting me at so many disadvantages with the spawns that actually cheating would at worst simply level the playing field. You're not going to have fun unless you're a cheater, a tryhard in the wrong game mode, or if you're the one doing all the spawn killing. And if I wanted to be repeatedly spawn killed like that, I'd hop on Halo MCC and go into CE multiplayer where the spawns are literally so bad I've gotten spawn killed by the same guy 7 times in a row before spawning an 8th time in front of him while he's about to pick up overshield (god mode while it's charging) and his teammate had a rocket launcher. Like how the hell am I supposed to fight back or run away from that?! Fix the pvp or remove it, the only people who will miss it no doubt fall into the aforementioned categories.