We don't need a lot, but we need something every now and then. It feels clear that PvE content is harder to develop and loses steam faster, while a good PvP map is evergreen. Strong PvP keeps players grinding your old PvE content for weapons — it fuels the whole ecosystem.
I don’t know if the PvP strike team still exists, but we desperately need them back. The current state of PvP is rough (though it has been worse):
- The fact that I can only go Flawless once per weekend is strange and restrictive.
- The hand cannon shotgun + lightweight knife is still out there.
- Titans sitting back to boltcharge up completely kills the flow of matches.
- Special ammo economy let's gods snowball
- I could go on..
There’s still so much fun to be had in Destiny PvP — the foundation is incredible — but the lack of new maps for years the, stale metas, and the focus on temporary “party” modes are driving people away. I’m queuing into the same three stacks seven or eight times an hour because there just aren’t enough others left.
Your PvP community needs a healthy, shifting meta and for Trials to have a real identity again — or something new to fill that role. I’ve defended Bungie for years because I love this game, but for the first time since I started playing, I’m worried it might really be the end.
And I don’t want it to end.
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I've decided to pretty much quit today. It feels so miserable on steam. Having only a couple thousand people in the pool feels bad. I have run into full bot lobby's of people who just want to farm t5 armor stats. I have already grinded to 450 and cant find the will to continue.
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PVP team is entirely on Marathon. We won't see anything added to pvp any time soon.
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I love how they have the balls to make a pvp game and cant figure out cheating in this game. marathon will be hacked day one. I know they dont care about the destiny community playing that game they are looking for a fresh start with a new community but if destiny is any indication of what to expect with marathon they are -blam!-.
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I always wondered why they neglect pvp so much, to me it’s always been the one activity everyone would actively play while we waited on new content. I’m assuming most of the pvp team is over working on Marathon. Idk I hope pvp gets some big sandbox changes by Renegades at least.
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Edited by Toots238857: 10/5/2025 6:55:12 PMDude, I agree with changes being needed. But you sound like you want EVERYTHING your way. Btw, nice inviz Stompeez having Hunter you got there.
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nah the pvp community wants no power advantages in pvp they aren't coming back to this crap, that's why it is so empty right now nobody wants to grind some boring tedious activities for hundreds of hours just to not feel gimped in pvp the lifer t5'ers can all hang with themselves while everyone else ignores it scoring also chases players away, and forcing specific gear also chases players away bungie didn't care at all about 'player fun', all they cared about was making an absolutely inescapable hideous grind for ALL players - with dopamine almost completely stripped away so you have to go to the cash shop for any real dopamine hit
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Sorry to say but Bungie's only investment towards PVP is Marathon. They might as well have just set fire to their investment.
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How about those cheaters in PvP using Ticuu’s Divination aim bots?
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We need dedicated servers, so players won't have such big advantage, like now with peer-2-peer. Skill should count, not 1 second connection advantage!
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Just wait for marathon and go play that
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Comp is the most mundane experience i think there has ever been.
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Wait you mean you don’t enjoy playing g against a lobby of invisible players? Weird.
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Sorry, the best we can do is laggy connections, poor cheat detection, and desynchronized cross play. Tell you what, if you act now we'll throw in an additional week of Heavy Metal or scorch cannon rift.
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Best we’re getting for PvP is another reskin of Not forgotten
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It feels like they moved the majority of their pvp devs to work on marathon. They also dont seem to want is playing pvp. They only offer 3 modes in the portal during the week and trials on the weekend, nothing else gives viable rewards. Stuff like mayhem is not an option anymore. What makes it worse is i doubt marathon will do well, its just not appealing, and they expect people to pay for it. With destiny being the worst its ever been and the Art drama and many other fctors they should make it free to play or something because I dont think many people trust them to put out a good game anymore.
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Agree, I like PvP, as much as PvE, but the issue with PvP are much more than a sandbox balance. Their server architecture is crap and most games lag, especially with the low population. Add to that very little being done to curb cheating, people using MnK on console, modded controllers… I see so much more weird stuff in PVP in the last year. That game mode is dying, but not because of new content.