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Edited by Imperator Morsus:
3/28/2024 2:07:42 AM
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So remind me, why was my Recluse, my Mountaintop and other weapons were Sunset again?
I have all the old weapons in storage still, all the sunset weapons I earned, now you are telling me that instead of upgrading them and allowing us to get a re-roll on them for the new weapons rolls, we are going to have to do is all over again?
Are you kidding me?!
Are you kidding me Bungie? Are you really this tone-deaf?
I am not going to write another monologue telling people how broken this game is only to get it plucked off the forum because of some butt-hurt SJW at Bungie... and then banned because I offended someone somewhere...
But they deserve a thrashing after this last video... there is no excuse why this is happening.
Sony, if you are stalking these forums, fix this ship before it becomes Titanic II... because right now this company has lost its way, and the game is a shell of what it should be... all because of EID and ESG...
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5 RepliesBecause it took 3 years worth of power creep and multiple nerfs to put them in a state where they are on the same level as other legendaries and even some exotics, if they were never sunset no gin would have ever mattered until the current season
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20 RepliesBungie sunset those guns so they wouldn’t have to power creep them. Whether you admit it or not if those weapons weren’t sunset people would still be using them in endgame content. They would have been meta for way too long
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2 RepliesI can’t wait for ppl to get their god rolled recluse and then vault it lol. Yes it was a great weapon when it came out but now it has so much competition I can’t see it being too big a deal. It’ll be mostly vaulted until we get a good void mod in the artifact again.
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2 RepliesThey were sunset on the premise that Bungie could replace our losses. Which they didn't. They couldn't keep up. If you really want to blame anyone at this point. Blame Bungie leadership. The dudes above the Game director. Back to answering the question you had. In short sunsetting done right keeps the hamster wheel healthy while giving you a reason to keep playing and it allows for anything broken to have it's time then fall away. I saw the potential in that idea but then I also saw Bungie's incapability to do it right.
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Edited by The Hermit IX: 3/28/2024 6:54:57 PMI hated sunsetting but pinnacles were broken so that is why they sunset them. I was super outspoken about it on the forums and had countless arguments over it but I did understand why pinnacles were a major problem. If you had mountain top and recluse, you didn’t need any other weapons. The other legendary weapons didn’t need to be sunset and was a mistake on their end to do so. With that said everyone knows the new versions of pinnacles are toned down compared the original versions but the regular legendary weapons will be much better versions. Hope that clears it up.
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Oh no. Over 300 weapons were sunset and we are getting like 8 of those back. It was a game size problem. And recluse and mountaintop had static rolls and were only for pvp comp players . Now they are for PvE.
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Edited by BetweenMyself: 3/30/2024 10:05:25 PMThe game was in a vastly different place when Sunsetting was enacted, right around the addition of Stasis and years prior to Strand, prior to the rework of the Light Subclasses, prior to the addition of several new Perks applying 3.0 verbs to weapons, prior to several rounds of buffs and nerfs to various Exotics and weapon Archetypes, and prior to several changes to ability uptime and player survivability. Nearly four years of gradual change involving both minor adjustments and major reworks to game mechanics have brought us to a point where certain weapons (with additional adjustments made to reign them in further) no longer pose [i]the same[/i] balancing issues they once did and the devs are comfortable letting them back onto the playfield. (΄◉◞౪◟◉｀)
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6 RepliesCry harder. Reissues have different perks, so it's not what the old ones were. Don't want to chase them don't, but beating the long dead horse of sunsetting and crying about playing the game that you already are playing is pathetic.
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sunsetting happens naturally as stronger perks are introduced and all old weapons become power crept out of relevance. I think they should lift the power limitation on all old gear (speculated that gear power will be entirely removed in TFS), but otherwise, I see no issue with reprising fan favorites and giving them random rolls and/or new, relevant perks
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1 ReplyBecause Bunghole doesn't give two shites about us. We are walking wallets and nothing more.
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1 ReplyCan't they just vault gambit (it's not like they're ever gonna update it) and bring back a portion of what they sunset
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2 RepliesSo they can recycle them and all the fanboys call that “content.”
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I've had posts removed from this forum for smaller, almost non existent comments. The fact this post has been around as long as it has is disgusting too me. Go on reddit or Twitter where your choice of words is accepted more. This post will be removed by bungie eventually.
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So they could fool you into thinking they did something good in the future by giving them back to you with a new coat of paint.
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Sunsetting was a terrible idea,I’d rather get my weapons disabled until they balance them instead of them becoming useless in every endgame activity.
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1 ReplyBungie promised no more vaulting......they never said anything about sunsetting. You expected that bungie would care a bout players?
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So they could spray a new coat of paint or similar and then reintroduce them for people to grind again. Keeping them in the hamster wheel. Just like a LOT of people said when sunsetting was announced, only for the BDF scream their lungs out that "something like that wouldn't happen".
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3 RepliesBecause too many people whine and whimper to Bungie about how the weapons hurt too much.
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we don't need new content when we can keep recycling the old. This is the Bungie way. My biggest issue with what they demoed is the power-creep. You're going to have a few significantly overpowered weapons, making the vast majority of the weapon pool completely obsolete. Why wouldn't you dedicate some resources to balancing the current environment, which is still a mess, instead of purposely injecting new balancing issues?
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2 RepliesIt took almost 4 years of power creep to make weapons like recluse be reasonable and mountain top and Lunas are getting nerfed versions of themselves with this so yeah I think removing them AT THE TIME was kind of justified
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3 RepliesI want to be able to infuse my current Hammerhead, Blast Furnace and Recluse up to the max, not be told "no because legacy guns hehe" I shouldn't even have to grind for a Luna or MT i can buy em from the Kiosk, what PURPOSE does it serve to bring em back as a drop instead of having other guns that matter more and just let people infuse into the old ones up to 1810
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because the perks arent the same anymore.
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NMop bungie is not kidding! Yes, they are so tone def, they could not hear the truck about to run them over. Sun setting was an idea pitched by some idiot dev and all the fan bois jumped on board saying it was for the health of the game, power creep, etc. yada, yada, yada Bungie Devs that were all excited and sold players on the "you can farm these from day one" in the stream now look like IDIOTS, after they post that we can't farm them from day one. More out right lies from the DEV team!
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Man these posts are everywhere ! The game was bloated and broken …something had to give which was weapons and content being sunset . If it didn’t happen people would still be using heavily to this day lol Destiny2 really is what it is . Gatekeeping not surprised and not why people are freaking out over it . How else are buhgie going to keep players logging in 🤷🏼♂️ There is nothing happening for 66 days ! People need to wake up 😂
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2 RepliesIt’s too bad that the stat trackers don’t transfer. That’s the only thing that kind of irritated me. I liked being irrationally loyal to one gun just to pad the stats 😂.
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I just want the next stream to hurry up and come out the whole weapon time gating uproar isn't very exciting. I bet next week's uproar is better.
