I didnt forget anything. If PVP is their excuse then they are massively incompetent. The first class based Shooter was Team Fortress, you then have Overwatch and a whole host of Class based shooters where the classes have defined play. Having a class be defined by a marginal stat difference is another awful excuse. One, most classes will have similar stats due to the way armor is implemented and based on how the stats other than recovery do anything useful. You seem to think making excuses is a valid form of argument, it isnt. Pvp is an excuse because Bungie never defined how Pvp is supposed to feel in this game. Is it supposed to be battlefield with mystic super soldiers? Bungie doesmt know because all they seem to focus on is TTK. Also, every other game that has an RPG element and Pvp has learned that you cannot have a unified gaming experience. PvE cannot maintain interest when bound to PvP. Why? Because a game optimized for Pvp over PvE leads to an extremely boring game. It also causes problems because how do you make PvE more engaging when everything is held back by PvP balance? You can't. Again Bungie has no vision. You can deflect all you want but the proof is that in 3 years this game has had more game play revisions than any MMO I have played.