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Edited by Hydrilus: 9/17/2019 11:37:30 PM
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Why is Bungie talking as if this is their first attempt at Destiny? Like they've had no idea what they've been doing the past 5 years and are finally progressing passed beta stage? If someone showed me this and said this is a new game coming out from an unknown developer who is just getting their feet wet, I'd have believed them because based on the dialogue, that's exactly what it sounds like - except it's a veteran triple-A developer.
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  • Because they don't have Staten anymore. Bungie constantly repeats themselves by using the same lines they have been for 5 years now. It's all they know how to do and it literally shows how lost they actually are. They even attempted to say year 3 has a foundation 😂 The translation to that is, we're making things how they're now and won't change it so they say. Not that we know if that is a good thing or bad.

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  • Well it is the first time they’ve had control of their own direction, so it is kind of a clean slate. If you have any idea how publishing deals work in the entertainment industry, you’d understand what a big deal getting those rights back is.

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  • [quote]Well it is the first time they’ve had control of their own direction, so it is kind of a clean slate.[/quote] [url=https://www.google.com/amp/s/wccftech.com/bungie-we-need-to-dispel-the-notion-that-activision-was-some-prohibitive-overlord-that-wouldnt-let-us-do-awesome-things/amp/]You delusional little fanboy.[/url]

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  • [quote][quote]Well it is the first time they’ve had control of their own direction, so it is kind of a clean slate.[/quote] [url=https://www.google.com/amp/s/wccftech.com/bungie-we-need-to-dispel-the-notion-that-activision-was-some-prohibitive-overlord-that-wouldnt-let-us-do-awesome-things/amp/]You delusional little fanboy.[/url][/quote] You play every single day and I’ve hardly played in months. Quit projecting your fanboyism.

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  • You have lost if this is the best come back you have. Now back to the shadows dreg before your over lords dock another arm.

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  • Edited by drew012278: 9/18/2019 7:59:54 PM
    Wrong. The intellectual property was always theirs. When Bungie started taking the game to something the masses would not like they lost the bank. And what do you get? The moon again.......with a infinite grind.....good luck with that

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  • No matter how many times you push this lie won't miraculously make it the truth.

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  • Edited by DarkOverlord_9: 9/19/2019 5:44:28 AM
    [quote]No matter how many times you push this lie won't miraculously make it the truth.[/quote] [url=https://www.google.com/amp/s/wccftech.com/bungie-we-need-to-dispel-the-notion-that-activision-was-some-prohibitive-overlord-that-wouldnt-let-us-do-awesome-things/amp/]Especially since it is a verifiable lie, according to bungie themselves. Activision being restrictive has always been an excuse made by dumb fanboys. [/url]

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  • [quote][quote]No matter how many times you push this lie won't miraculously make it the truth.[/quote] [url=https://www.google.com/amp/s/wccftech.com/bungie-we-need-to-dispel-the-notion-that-activision-was-some-prohibitive-overlord-that-wouldnt-let-us-do-awesome-things/amp/]Especially since it is a verifiable lie, according to bungie themselves. Activision being restrictive has always been an excuse made by dumb fanboys. [/url][/quote] You can’t stop playing, are you just a crackhead? Really you want help but can’t find the self discipline alone?

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  • You have been measured. You have been weighed. You have been found wanting.

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  • A blind shill will not consider anything which challenges their world view. Cognitive dissonance is a hellva thing...

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  • No matter how many times you push the lie that activision didn't do anything won't miraculously make it the truth

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  • Bru you jumping all over commenting. Get off the forum and get back to work you Bungie slacker! Is this the reason we have eleventy-five horde modes?

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  • Bs.

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  • Edited by Necrogen: 9/18/2019 9:09:49 PM
    It [i][b]does[/b][/i] sound like they keep rewriting and switching gears. It can be the lack of ideas from the team and bad feedback from people? I'd love to know [i][b]what[/b][/i] feedback they listen to specifically.

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  • Hard to know. Personally I think it's an upper management issue. Once you bask in success for too long (or, really just any situation too long), it's easy to become stagnant...complacent...and narrow minded. If management doesn't MANAGE, doesn't give GUIDANCE to the many developers who are probably confined to their own teams and never get together often enough with everyone to discuss the big picture of what they're trying to do, then everyone is only there to collect a paycheck. There is no passion. The guy whose sole responsibility day to day is coming up with new shaders or new ghost projections doesn't have to care about how the raids turn out... He does his work, and turns it in to the team that'll integrate it. Job done. As far as what feedback they listen to...again, hard to say, but I was here during the early halo years, on the old forums, when Bungie was far more active (and also smaller), and I remember them caring (or, at least portraying a convincing illusion of caring) and considering feedback far more than they do now. None of the boilerplate "we're listening" bs we get now. It wasn't perfect then either but...it was at least SOMETHING.

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  • That's true. It happens to every group too. I want these guys to commit and maintain their integrity after shadowkeep. I think what they are doing is better. I hope everything starts coming together now. Story to me is a minor point since the gun game is pretty solid. I just want now to sit back an enjoy the story finally

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  • I'm waiting for new all I saw was pay 40 and you will get stuff you have already paid for

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  • But but.. You get to fight Crota all over again with some reskinned enemies!! The devs are working hard you know!! :D

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  • Edited by Necrogen: 9/18/2019 1:37:52 AM
    You know every halo game is a reskin right? The way you all freely use that term, every sequel is a reskin. What's your point? If it's a formula that works and is welcomed, why do you care? People rave about halo [i][b]all the time[/b][/i] and never said 2 3 4 ODST Reach are reskins. Come on now BL3 isa reskin, every Mario game, CoD, devil may cry, megaman, dragon quest, smash Bros, Pokemon... Need I go on?

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  • Edited by RomanticRubberFist: 9/20/2019 1:17:12 AM
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    Hmm. I don't remember there being a raid in Halo where the armor pieces were re-skins, while the cash shop had all the pretty new stuff. In fact, I don't remember Halo being a loot shooter at all. It's almost as if your whole comparison is ill-conceived. Re-skinning loot, or throwing a new coat of paint on old locations/maps in a live service loot shooter is [i]not[/i] the same thing as there being several Halo games, nor Borderlands games for that matter. Bravo, dude. 👏 👏 👏 How did you manage to write that whole thing and not realize how stupid it sounds? I don't even think you're joking. You were actually being serious, and that's.. That's just amazing. Bless your precious little heart.

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  • [quote]Hmm. I don't remember there being a raid in Halo where the armor pieces were re-skins, while the cash shop had all the pretty new stuff. In fact, I don't remember Halo being a loot shooter at all. It's almost as if your whole comparison is ill-conceived. Re-skinning loot, or throwing a new coat of paint on old locations/maps in a live service loot shooter is [i]not[/i] the same thing as there being several Halo games, nor Borderlands games for that matter. Bravo, dude. 👏 👏 👏 How did you manage to write that whole thing and not realize how stupid it sounds? I don't even think you're joking. You were actually being serious, and that's.. That's just amazing. Bless your precious little heart.[/quote] I think you're mental. Obvious troll is obvious. Anything else?

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  • If I wanted to fight Crota again all I have to do is reload d1 that is still on my ps4 and play the raid

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  • Edited by Necrogen: 9/18/2019 1:39:26 AM
    It would be nice to see a reinvisioned encounter with crota and all the old bosses with the new systems. They are argued to be great. Why all of a sudden it isn't welcomed because it's thrown in D2? That makes no sense.

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  • When they brought the raids to 390 light in d1 they honestly shouldve done it then

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