It’s a tricky one, I think it’s best to avoid it as much as possible but there are definitely cases where it would work. Removing things like computers, consoles and phones is much more effective in most cases. I’d say it’s more of a last resort which many many children today do need. And for the record a good slap across the back of the legs is discipline. A punch to the face is abuse. But that should be obvious 🙄 Everyone who thinks parents have no right to do this need to remember that when my parents were at school (in England) they would get canned across the legs by the teachers! Imagine that today 😨 [spoiler]Well it was more my dad that knew the cane 😂🙈[/spoiler]